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Katie: Hello, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this subject is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some folks listening. And I’ll admit there are components of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t absolutely perceive but. But we speak about creating and curating life drive power, additionally about issues like decreasing EMFs and the way that ties in as nicely. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Focused Life Force Energy. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this know-how and the scientific backing for it, and an entire lot of different instructions.
I’m right here with two folks, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this area, and he’s the scholar of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has an entire set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds a little bit esoteric proper now. But he has lots of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has targeted on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this know-how. So like I mentioned, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I may what that is and the way it works. But on the whole, it’s about making a area inside your house that’s calming and loving, and in addition has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. Without additional ado, let’s be a part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here immediately.
Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.
Clayten: Nice to see you, Katie.
Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one specific subject that I feel may be considerably new for the viewers after which lots of completely different subtopics under that.
But earlier than we bounce into that, I might love to only let the viewers hear a little bit background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re turning into a farmer to use a few of the issues we’re going to speak about immediately. And that Clayten was a business fisherman in earlier life. So I might love to only hear perhaps a few of the story of what introduced you each to this work.
Jeff: I may begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I like science fiction. I like getting misplaced and like the opportunity of a a lot larger world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade college, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was on the lookout for methods to go away my physique. But in the meantime, each ft had been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term workers, and constructing a aware tradition of kind of, you already know, heart-centered enterprise.
And that’s how I met Clayten. He was really teaching in enterprise as a religious path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very sensible. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or really early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medication ended. And I’ve meditated along with her, you already know, for the subsequent…doing transcendental meditation by highschool.
So simply early on, I’ve actually been focused on form of what’s behind, you already know, what’s underneath the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging underneath that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my stage of consciousness in several areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I believed I hid so nicely. In reality, typically, they had been so nicely hidden, they had been unconscious.
But discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you already know, and love in these areas of my life. That was kind of the trail that took us to the FLFE know-how that we found, which is a consciousness know-how that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.
Clayten: Yeah, nicely, as Katie mentioned, I used to be a business fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I may all the time go. And lots of that I discovered by fishing. I spent lots of time strolling alongside the edges of rivers, and I feel in all probability the mix of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is diminished. And being within the presence of great thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered lots of my peace as a younger man.
And there have been some choices after I was in highschool. One of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I wished to do on the planet. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a type of folks that… Now, it’s known as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you know, I want to have a place to sleep. I don’t want to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an previous truck and an previous camper and an previous… I feel they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.
So I drove round Canada for a couple of 12 months and, you already know, I did form of labor-type jobs. So fishing was one in every of them. I labored within the oil area, you already know. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not lots of training and coaching, in order that’s the work that was accessible to me.
And I acquired concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually focused on attempting to make sense of some issues in my life and on the planet. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one specific manner of life. And so I select a philosophy and I acquired deeply concerned in that. And that led me into training.
I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the training area. I used to be a business fisherman for some time. And I form of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. But my love for training and instructing and studying was larger. So that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historical within the teaching world.
And as a result of I’d spent 11 years on this Eastern-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in non-public colleges, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought of enterprise their religious path. And I selected that as a result of, on the planet, it appears that evidently enterprise has the ability proper now for good or for dangerous, proper? In the previous, it may need been the humanities or, you already know, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or non secular establishments.
So I figured I may do essentially the most good on the planet with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t need to make an effort, however you form of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do essentially the most good together with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought of their enterprise as their religious path.
Jeff and I are gearheads. So we prefer to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, after I was in highschool. I took the educational half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was form of technical that manner.
And so, ultimately, you already know, and a mixture of exploring kinesiology and being focused on form of machines and training, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a bunch of inventors who…they had been attempting to create a free power system for humanity. And they didn’t do this. But they form of stumbled upon a strategy to focus lifeforce power on objects.
Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you already know, journey. Yeah, this man was simply kind of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like wonderful. And it’s such a highly-charged surroundings. So I acquired to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a couple of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.
Katie: I very a lot resonate together with your story in saying, like, “Where can my effort make the most difference and provide the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude on daily basis that my work is with different girls and mothers. Because, for me, I feel that’s a part of my life function is that we help mothers. We help not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as an entire. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.
And you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, probably, for lots of people listening. So I might love to begin very primary and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and perhaps give some examples to assist folks form of perceive and anchor what which means.
Jeff: Mm hmm. We imagine that consciousness is in every single place. That it’s throughout us. And we comply with Dr. David Hawkins’ work. One of his books is “Power vs. Force.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I might say that we expertise this on daily basis. That everybody experiences it on daily basis.
So in case you’re strolling around the globe, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. So that could possibly be, you already know, a synagogue or church or cathedral, significantly a few of the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they had been designed that manner with the structure and the kind of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.
So once you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an power, like nearly an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to essentially calm down. And I’ve seen that in cathedrals, after I was touring Europe, the place I might stroll within the door, I might really feel just like the nearer I acquired to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it acquired, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness area that’s getting increased and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.
In low consciousness fields, you would expertise in an previous jail, a battleground. Like, in case you’ve ever been to a type of locations, there’s this kind of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, perhaps even feelings or ideas may come up. And we imagine that thought varieties and feelings could be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such sturdy broadcasters of our power that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.
So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s form of that feeling folks speak about, like, “I don’t like the energy of this place.” or, “This feels really good.” Well, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we imagine our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Like you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you already know, you’re like wanting over your shoulder, like, what’s happening right here? And that, you already know, helps us to take care of what may be coming. So we imagine these fields are in every single place. And what the FLFE know-how does is to activate a excessive consciousness area just like the cathedral really feel.
Katie: Clayten, do you’ve any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?
Clayten: You know, I’ve some sensible examples of this. And perhaps one that will not be distinctive to girls, however I feel they’ll admire. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness area could be your pondering… There’s an plain bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her baby. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as nicely. But it’s only a completely different connection.
So once you’re pondering of someone, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a constructive thought, after which they name you, they mentioned, “I was just thinking about you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t find out about that. So that will be an instance of a excessive consciousness area.
Now, I imply, that might flip to fret. Instead of like consciousness, it may flip to fret and concern. But I might say that the FLFE know-how has some parallels to the capability that people should create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other area.
And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to let you know the story. So I’ve some pals on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to dwell in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the pinnacle workplace of the corporate is.
And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these folks. And this girl, she was…there was a bunch of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they known as them doulas or it was simply girls who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it can come to me. Midwives.
So this girl was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a beginning that occurred. She’d been up a lot of the night time, and this child had been born. And she got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and she or he went to return.
And the power that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I mentioned, “What just happened? You’re just glowing.” She mentioned, “Well, this baby just got born.” And she mentioned, “It’s like a miracle.” You know, it’s an power of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be identical to, to at the present time, I identical to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.
And she mentioned, “You know, I’m just thinking of having another child. It’s such a beautiful thing to bring into the world.” And for some motive, I’m getting… I’ve by no means instructed that story to very many individuals, however I feel, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of lots of the folks you serve are moms.
And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a rare power area. Because I feel, when a baby will get born, one thing occurs that’s wonderful. And I haven’t seen a beginning. And I haven’t actually been shut to 1. But that’s the closest I’ve ever been perhaps inside quarter-hour, half an hour.
So, FLFE can’t create that kind of surroundings, nevertheless it does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place form of surroundings in its personal manner. It relies upon, you already know. People have lots of affect on it. We simply can’t make the surroundings be a sure manner. But we are able to actually have it’s a sort of, you already know, a consciousness stage that’s unconditionally loving. And then it’s as much as everyone else so as to add to what they will and what they need from there.
Katie: I like that you simply used that for example. I’m really a doula and have began supply coaching. Probably, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my kids had been born. And I feel you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the glory of being at many births as nicely, and holding area for these girls. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of beginning.
And I keep in mind very clearly, when my first baby was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was fast to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I love people in my life. But I’ve never experienced this level of love until this moment.”
And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Like it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so once we speak about consciousness, I feel you’re proper. Moms can resonate with that innate feeling that perhaps you may’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you already know that feeling with regards to your kids.
I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round so much. I feel typically perhaps it will get misused or tied into lots of different issues. But let’s go a little bit deeper on the concept of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Kind of stroll us by how that is measured or perhaps simply give us some tangible metrics. Because I feel it might really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to form of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as doable earlier than we bounce into extra specifics.
Jeff: I may begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you already know, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own kids. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we had been speaking about it.
So, you already know, there’s a consciousness area there that will get activated. And then we are able to take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you mentioned. And as we mentioned, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you already know, the place there’s been grief or torture, you already know, tragedy of some variety. In reality, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an residence, folks gained’t hire it as a result of there’s extra prone to be one other suicide. So that’s a consciousness area there.
So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you already know, there’s all the time some consciousness to infinity. So you would say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so on that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 occasions extra power current within the area. So down under, 200 on that map, you already know, there’s lethargy and melancholy and a few of the decrease power, decrease consciousness area. So like, in case you’re round someone that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness area. And then, as you progress over 200, you’re shifting into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve acquired a lot expertise on this.
Clayten: We do lots of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are kind of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these varieties of beings.
If you’re a few of the feelings under 200, sometimes, the size of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is form of apathy, 100 is concern, 150 is anger, 190 is form of extreme satisfaction. And it’s simply form of that 200 mark is the place issues turn into constructive.
So now we have braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is motive, once you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you already know, skilled requirements, authorized career. And 500 is love.
And so, the FLFE surroundings, we assure it, will probably be at… So now we have a consciousness slider the place you may really slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It won’t ever take power away. But it can add it as much as that stage to make sure it’s at that stage or extra. And you may transfer it from 400 to 570.
So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter stage you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. Because issues do occur in a home or in any surroundings the place there’s a disruption for a little bit bit.
And you need to positively affect the surroundings, however you don’t need to take folks’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to regulate it. But we do add lots of like to it. And then, from there, it’s what folks make of it.
We even have issues like boosts. You can enhance the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… Because now we have a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your individual consciousness experimenter, or I suppose… Do we name it that, Jeff? Do we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the title for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your individual manner of referring to it.
Katie: I consider that as I typically speak concerning the vitamin and bodily well being facet. And I say typically to folks, “You are your own primary healthcare provider and your own health researcher. And you can work with amazing practitioners and partners in that. But at the end of the day, that experimentation and that responsibility resides in each of us individually, and no one else can take over that responsibility for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same thought to this different realm that perhaps folks haven’t thought of.
And you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t performed a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it prior to now at the least been skeptical about, and I’m attempting to know higher. So I might love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works a little bit bit in case you don’t thoughts.
Jeff: So form of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so once you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the power feels good. So we imagine our our bodies are devices, sturdy devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.
And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you already know, been pioneered by various folks. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different stage the place it’s the energy of the muscle within the presence of fact. So the idea is that we’re linked in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nonetheless you consider it. We’re linked to all that’s. And that presence of fact is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the energy of the muscle, you already know, within the presence of a press release.
So the assertion, you already know, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we might say, you already know, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, stage of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you already know, sturdy 200 or extra, sturdy 400 or extra, sturdy 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. And then again up, you already know, 520 or extra sturdy, 530 or extra, 540 or extra sturdy, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.
So, now we have a workforce of folks that do that testing. And what we do is we check individually, after which, you already know, evaluate. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve performed thousands and thousands of those sorts of checks on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.
But you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the strain of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you already know, he wasn’t urgent more durable on my arm to maintain it, you already know, make it go down. And then, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I might put it near my chest, and I’d be sturdy, sturdy, till I acquired a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it could be weak. So that was an fascinating kind of a manner of measuring the drive the that you simply’re placing on the arm. And if in case you have one other query or we are able to move it on to Clayten.
Clayten: Another sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but additionally nutritionists. If you go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, they usually’ll scale them as to how good they’re.
And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I preserve going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few customary changes. And then, you already know, sometimes, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, they usually’ll push it down and see how sturdy it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? And they’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you already know, that’s a type of kinesiology.
I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be instructed there’s seven colleges of chiropractic, and one in every of them is kinesiology targeted. And that’s the way it appears like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They check the energy of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is completed. And so it’s used so much on the planet. It’s simply the consciousness side of it’s, it’s form of distinctive. Well, it’s an rising area. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.
Katie: Yeah, and I feel I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely interested in this for a very long time. And form of the concept’s been popularized not too long ago of the concept of Biology of Belief, and if we imagine one thing, that may affect.
And so I’ve all the time puzzled, with regards to kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you mentioned it’s centered in reality and true statements. I’ve simply been very interested in that. Like if somebody believes one thing is nice for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is nice for them, does that impression it in any respect?
Clayten: One of the methods you’d take care of that’s you’d do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You had been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Right? So that’s how we are going to sometimes study kinesiology collectively. So you’ve a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.
So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a task. But what I might do is I might make the constructive declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. So that’s one strategy to handle bias. And one other manner is to essentially have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. If you get adequate at this, you may measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.
And, you already know, over time, there are methods to… You know, once we do our property testing, there’s normally at the least three of us. So there’s methods of on the lookout for statistical validation by imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t suppose could be a good assertion. You simply should study to handle bias.
Like if there’s a subject, you may check your stage of consciousness of fact on that subject, proper? And then you may check the extent of aware…of your intent in the direction of an final result. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the chances of you getting good knowledge within the surroundings, together with testing unknown controls, you already know, earlier than you go in.
So it’s a career. Lots of people simply suppose, “Oh, I could just pick up a book and learn it and a half an hour.” It’s like, nicely, perhaps you may, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.
Jeff: Yeah, I feel the bias, it’s an essential query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why now we have teams, you already know, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All right, let’s stop. Let’s…” You know, could possibly be that one particular person has turn into dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually good condition, so having hydration at a sure stage. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know in case you’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, once you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a change. So you’ve gone adverse. So you really get the alternative lead to kinesiology when that occurs.
Yeah, it’s an fascinating topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me how one can do it. And then now we have a workforce of individuals within the enterprise that help us.
And it’s actually an fascinating instrument. I imply, you may actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And with regards to analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis workforce. He’s written various books within the University of Arizona. And he’s been an awesome bridge between science and a few of these new power therapeutic methods. He’s performed fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and different kinds of methods. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology research with us this 12 months. So we’re seemingly to do this this 12 months.
Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of know-how and science, understanding issues which have really form of an age previous and lots of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to look at that development occur. And I may go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.
But I need to be sure that we really get again to this know-how, as a result of I feel you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m positive folks can consider occasions of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my kids had been born. But additionally, we are able to’t, sadly, typically, all of us dwell in these locations the place continually simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the know-how with this consciousness form of age-old science that has all the time existed to create this, and the way we are able to all create these increased consciousness fields in our personal lives.
Clayten: Well, we form of stumbled upon a know-how that existed. The intent, as I mentioned, was to create a free power system for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, instrument and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful when it comes to technical abilities. And the way in which he associated to divinity was actually by making stuff. You know, that’s simply how we did it. And some persons are farmers or household man or household girls or, no matter, businesspeople. And his manner was to make stuff. I feel it’s essential to keep in mind that intent issues so much. And divinity expresses by all the things. It expresses by nature. It’s kinda simpler to seek out, for me, there. Some folks specific this by know-how.
And this know-how was born out of intent to serve. And he spent lots of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, so much. And then we took it to an entire different stage. So there’s an rising group of applied sciences which can be capable of help humanity, identical to the inner combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.
I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you already know, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re capable of be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re capable of assist, you already know, the ladies in your life that you simply need to join with. So, you already know, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and a better energy and excessive consciousness fields. So that’s the way in which that we see the world. And that’s the way in which that we body it.
And there’s all varieties of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner system, which is a makes use of a constructive electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I suppose, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been entering into Jerry Tennant’s work a little bit bit extra. He talks concerning the significance of voltage within the physique, and how one can create your constructive voltage. So there’s plenty of rising applied sciences on the market that may help us to be more healthy. And, you already know, we’re one in every of them.
Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of pondering of somebody after which, you already know, feeling love and sending them love. What we imagine occurs is there’s a area activated round the individual that’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, they usually profit from that. And, you already know, distant prayer, a few of the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic medication, at a distance is similar mechanism.
There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you would say, a quantum power system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with comparable know-how to Nikola Tesla. Originally, it was excessive velocity alternating present working by coils and plates. And it was creating an lively area by that oscillation.
And it’s advanced since then to not want the electrical energy in that manner. But basically ideas, identical to us figuring out somebody, you already know, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it may be a cellphone quantity, which identifies a mobile system. It may be an deal with that identifies a property. It may be coordinates, you already know, and the area across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sector’s activated at that location. So identical to human consciousness, our system works.
And so we’re placing into this technique written directions that determine that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you already know, that’s activating the sector. We’ve performed various experiments alongside the way in which to say, “How can we quantify this?” You know, how will you see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?
Well, what we’ve performed is these blinded experiments now with vegetation rising. And in order that activation of the sector in an surroundings, vegetation are rising a lot sooner. You know, we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% enhance in development. And we’re seeing an analogous form of 14% to 29% enhance in yield in a big farm research that we did this previous 12 months, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historical grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. And they had been measuring the bushels per acre with their subtle farm gear. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% enhance in yield.
I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you already know, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You can see it within the plant development. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE clients. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I suppose, we must always say that the place folks…it’s $35, for the very best finish. And then for households, now we have some lower cost ranges for kids’s telephones and issues like that, all the way down to $10 or $12 a month.
But that activation within the area, folks had been seeing their vegetation rising, they usually had been seeing their yards wanting greener, and their shrubs wanting greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you already know, experiments. And that’s kind of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the shoppers and from our personal experiences within the area. And then we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve performed some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve performed experiments on the FLFE surroundings. And then Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis workforce are engaged on various different experiments.
Clayten: Well, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you may go in and have a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digital camera in an surroundings which confirmed much less chaos within the surroundings, extra concord. We have six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place folks had, you already know, these issues that they put in your physique, they usually measure your brainwaves.
Jeff: EEG.
Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, nevertheless it was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which can be related to, you already know, peace and concord, government capabilities as nicely. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have performed. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.
Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of oldsters speaking about modifications of their kids, significantly round homework and college efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force power in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that basically enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force power accessible, it comes into the physique and, you already know, folks that observe yoga may know it’s prana. In Chinese medication, it’s Qi. And that move of Qi by the physique is admittedly essential for our well being.
When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce power, they’re all the identical factor. In the surroundings, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s elements of the mind which can be starved for power as a result of they’re working actually onerous, one in every of our FLFE, what we name packages, our ideas within the area, is for extra power to go to the areas the place there’s the least power accessible. And in order that has proven up in folks simply feeling like they’ve extra power by the day and efficiency.
At IONS – and this was a small research, and we have to comply with it up with a bigger research, that’s the form of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary research – there was a rise in cognitive perform with a research group who had been in an FLFE surroundings in comparison with folks that weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE surroundings prior. So that lifeforce power accessible to the physique is likely one of the basic ideas that we speak about. A whole lot of yogis and other people in several Eastern philosophies want to focus prana by chanting and breath management, you already know, particular respiratory practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra power in an area. And then, we’re a know-how so as to add much more power.
Katie: I’ll be sure that I, you already know, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll make it possible for’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s wellnessmama.fm, you guys can discover all of that. And I need to be sure that we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the car parking zone to return again to in a minute.
But first, I’d love to know, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the know-how with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally a little bit bit sophisticated. But are you able to clarify a little bit bit extra tangibly for individuals who might have bother greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, targeted? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? And then how can we focus it on someplace that’s distant? Because that is tremendous fascinating.
Clayten: Well, now we have a machine. And as Jeff mentioned, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls power from what some folks name the ether. It simply pulls power from the surroundings. And it focuses it and ultimately concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness area. And then from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. And then the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was about this large. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. When we’re experimenting, we might put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.
You know, “Dear divinity, please, help this person with, you know, they’ve got a problem with their liver. They got really bad psoriasis, please help them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you place the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they’d really feel a constructive profit, and perhaps a few of their psoriasis went away.
So then we, you already know, did extra analysis on well being and perhaps found that, “Well, if your liver is more energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we are able to make these extra subtle requests over time. And in the future, this gentleman was, nicely, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came visiting to the area. It was a rare area. And he would cost up these crystals. And so in the future he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this area and was charging it up.
And he pulled it out, and the cellphone rang, and it was a good friend, and he was speaking to his good friend, and he was on the cellphone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the cellphone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high power round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. And then, you already know, after about two weeks, he seen that the cost went out of the crystal. But within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his pals, to folks everywhere in the world, they usually had been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.
So we don’t make well being claims. But what he did was he put an image of…he put the folks within the machine, after which folks would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is form of ridiculous, proper? Because in case you ship it by mail, they usually solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have every week when it acquired to ship in a single day, and it could price some huge cash.
So then we found out that we may take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you would put that within the machine, and it could cost a crystal from the opposite facet of the planet. So he had all these footage of all these crystals within the machine and other people had been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was primarily based upon the precept, as Jeff mentioned earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So you needed to have an image of the crystal.
What we ultimately found out is we may put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness area on the backside of the output stack larger and larger and larger. So it’s like three ft tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you already know, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then in the future, we figured that we may put directions in there to inform the know-how to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same area wherever on the planet. So that was the evolution of it.
So now now we have this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff mentioned. Like, “You know, please do this. Please do that. Please do this.” All these good issues you may think about that you’d ask for somebody that you simply cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all these items to occur. And, you already know, we are able to’t actually management what occurs. We do have lots of affect over the extent of consciousness on the surroundings. And then we make all these requests. And then, it appears that evidently if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is admittedly immune to the constructive requests, nicely, that’s their very own free will. Right. So we are able to’t make you’ve the life you need, nevertheless it does provide you with 10 occasions extra power with each enhance in your stage of consciousness.
So, let’s say, proper now, the common residence in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the common, proper? So you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a type of factors is 10 occasions extra power. So it’s a really delicate power. But you’ve that rather more power to give attention to the belongings you need and create the life that you simply’re intending. So that’s form of the way it works.
Katie: Jeff, did you’ve any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?
Jeff: No, I feel that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.
Katie: Yeah, I figured that can result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, lots of mothers, it is a top-of-mind subject as a result of, clearly, now we have far more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair many years in the past and positively than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s a giant subject for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.
So I might love to listen to, I do know you guys have performed analysis on this and that there’s a manner that this really will help with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us by and clarify what’s happening in that state of affairs?
Jeff: Yes. So as we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her stage of consciousness to achieve our promised stage. Every day, new properties are available in on. Every week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we seen, we had been getting properties that weren’t on the stage. They had been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we might discover a property by utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the shopper. And we’d ask if something’s modified. And they had been telling us, very persistently, {that a} sensible meter, you already know, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply acquired turned down throughout the road, or we simply acquired a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness surroundings and a brand new EMF affect.
And so, we realized that, you already know, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being stage, decrease power stage, and fewer lifeforce power there. That’s form of our perspective on EMFs, that we have a look at power or consciousness reducing EMFs. Because some issues, some EMFs, are constructive, you already know. The power that our hearts emit once we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which can be constructive, from the solar.
So what we did is we researched, you already know, what’s the most acceptable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you would attempt to block and deflect, soak up – in case you’re deflecting, it’s going to someone else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it turn into constructive. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you may experiment with at residence. You can get sheets of shungite, and you’ll put it on to a router, or onto a sensible meter financial institution.
And what we’ve performed with the FLFE know-how is, so like I mentioned, you need to again up just a bit. So we imagine that there’s an lively essence related to each materials. And you may have a look at homeopathy and different implies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we imagine that’s the energetic essence of that materials.
And so, you perhaps are entering into multidimensional, maybe, subjects. But we had been ready, we imagine, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. And then to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which can be reducing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. You know that we had been planning this and the way in which we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we broaden to our workers. And then we broaden it to our clients. But we didn’t…. People had been simply speaking about it. And they mentioned, “Wow, I’m having a terrible time with EMFs. I want to try this as soon as possible.”
So we did a beta group with clients who had been self-selecting. You know, they had been saying, “I really am suffering terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after folks got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the surroundings with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting gadgets. And sooner or later, they turn into constructive. So there’s some overlay of constructive power, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on high of this EMF wave.
But we all the time need to check. So we had this preliminary survey. And folks had been saying that it was the very best sleep, you already know, that they had been capable of sleep the subsequent night time higher than they’ve in simply years. In different folks the place simply, “My pain went away.” “My anxiety level dropped.” “My brain fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. But we imagine that in an surroundings the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the harm of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us on daily basis. And for me, personally, it’s nervousness. I really feel like rigidity in my muscle tissue after I’m in an surroundings that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself stress-free. And that’s what lots of people reported.
And lots of nervousness with kids too. We get lots of testimonials the place folks say when the service first got here on, kids turned much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So now we have that analysis, and now we have some managed blinded research coming by a researcher on the University of Pennsylvania with, once more, folks which can be EMF delicate. And they gained’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month research. So we’re within the means of getting that going.
Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site presently, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the delicate power of FLFE that you need to discover the precise gadgets to measure that affect. Some gadgets simply don’t choose it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digital camera was one thing that might actually measure the affect.
So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digital camera research, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was attempting to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He may not have known as it that. But they’d be in an surroundings, and they might do, you already know, experiments the place they’d measure the surroundings with the GDV digital camera. And then they would depart the surroundings and focus power on it and see what would occur within the surroundings with a GDV digital camera.
So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% positive he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, until I’m 100%. But they did experiments like that the place they had been what’s the impact of this instructing, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an surroundings. So we use the identical practitioner, and now we have proof of that on our web site, as nicely. So, I imply, we’re speaking about lots of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these specific within the 3D bodily world, and now we have, you already know, proof that pertains to proving that. And now we have extra coming.
It looks like we was so enthusiastic about our proof, after which now we have a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new evidence. That’s really exciting.” We had this already good proof, proper? But we’re getting an increasing number of, so we’re seeking to have what we name a gold customary in analysis and improvement on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many sources there are in different areas.
Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the very best or somebody attempting to…is the very best researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no computerized billing. You really should work to turn into a subscriber after the free trial is over.
But the folks have a management panel, they usually can flip EMF mitigation off they usually can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. Because we actually need folks to attempt it out. And you may flip the service on and off, you are able to do the enhance that we mentioned, to boost the extent. You can decrease the extent. So that to us is the primary stage of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE neighborhood feeling, and provides them the instruments that they will use to do this.
And we discover that, primarily, girls, our viewers, you already know, our neighborhood is generally girls. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. So they actually look to see what’s taking place with their kids and perhaps with their husband, their companion. So they do blinded research. You know, it’s a strategy to see what’s taking place. And a few of the tales are actually touching.
Katie: I like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your individual major healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s an awesome circle that we created there.
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And I really feel just like the EMF subject may turn into its personal complete podcast. And hopefully will probably be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. But I like that you simply talked about the concept of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I feel, I’ve mentioned this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our fashionable world. We can’t absolutely disguise from them. Even if we lived in the midst of nowhere, they now are in area and directed on the planet, we are able to’t keep away from them.
So that brings the query of how can we mitigate? Or I like the phrase harmonize much more. And then extra precisely, like, how can we check that shifting ahead? Because we’re speaking about very nuanced know-how and easy EMF meters, they could check the presence of these issues, they won’t check the impact on the physique. And I feel that’s the precise essential query as a result of one thing may be current. But if it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re not likely measuring what we expect we’re measuring. And so, I like that you simply guys are getting very particular in that analysis.
And I like that you simply introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are great sources of EMFs that I feel typically get discounted. And I’m a giant fan of telling folks, “When you wake up, go outside in the sunlight barefoot for 15 minutes, and that’s one of the best medicines you can get and it’s free.” And that you simply form of tie in that idea into this know-how, which I do know you’ve talked about.
I’ll make it possible for that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink shall be at wellnessmama.fm. And you can too study. There’s a lot extra info in your web site than now we have time to enter in an hour’s podcast. But like I mentioned, perhaps we are able to circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as an increasing number of analysis develops from you guys.
But I do really feel like we had an incredible place to begin and engaging dialog about this subject. I do know, like I mentioned in the beginning, it is a new idea for lots of people. It could be onerous to understand. You talked about some sources, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as nicely, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and want to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I need to respect your time and the viewers time immediately. But earlier than we wrap up, I might love to listen to if there are any books which have had a extremely profound impression on both of your lives and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Clayton: Maybe, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology so much. And Dr. Hawkins’ first guide, “Power vs. Force,” it’s a New York Times bestseller. I fairly nicely canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. You know, I opened it up and neglect to shut it. And, after all, that impacts binding. So that will be one for me.
I may say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a guide I feel it’s known as, “Healing and Recovery” or Health and Healing. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been a giant one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Well, I’ll move over to you, Jeff.
Jeff: I feel the latest guide that’s had a big impression on me is, “Super Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its intensive analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past probability. You know, they’re simply nearly unattainable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the way in which to some both way of life or connection to another person that can fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a manner of divinity talking, you would say, or a route within the move of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to essentially learning synchronicity. So that was one that basically, actually acquired me.
Katie: That is a brand new advice for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I mentioned, I do know we went into some subjects which may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you simply guys have lots of analysis. If persons are focused on studying extra or perhaps really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how one in every of these items we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, in case you’re listening when you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you would discover all these within the present notes.
Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It could possibly be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. But one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I like this particular person finest on this second? But I might love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you’ve.
Clayton: I’ll begin with that, perhaps to offer you a second to suppose, Jeff. I didn’t know you had been a doula. Or you had been concerned in birthing different kids. So I don’t know if that’s a brilliant synchronicity. But that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply acquired instructed to inform that story. Sometimes, it’s fascinating to surprise the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s fascinating. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you already know, once we imagine there’s angelic realms, and once you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different folks, you get helped.
And I feel love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of folks you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we form of examined once we had been speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she really cares about the people she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some motive, my internal science geek desires to only go away folks with a doable experiment, apart from all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Well, really this does relate to the management panel.
You know, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is focused on that, you would put your arms in your router after which have someone flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a sensible meter. Smart meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however sensible meters, it’s like, wow, the power, after I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. And then after I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and calm down. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a extremely sensible, you already know, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you may simply attempt, you already know. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re form of geeks, so I simply attempt to move that on.
Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I might say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that beginning, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply immediately. Like, it’s taking place proper now.
And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we are able to then use to entry anytime that we have to enhance, you already know, that we’re in a, you already know, robust state of affairs the place our frustration or on the finish of our endurance, to name in that peak second, that area to activate that area round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply go away with that.
Katie: I find it irresistible. I feel that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for immediately. But hopefully future conversations to return. And for all of you listening, positively try the opposite analysis accessible on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. Unlike most issues on the web, you may really simply attempt it. You don’t should enter your bank card and provides them your first baby or something loopy to attempt it. You can simply do it.
And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. This is, like I mentioned, a subject that we’re all going to take care of in our lifetimes. And I feel there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply residing in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here immediately and sharing your analysis, which is, I feel, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.
Clayten: Thank you, Katie.
Jeff: Thank you, Katie.
Katie: And as all the time, because of all of you for listening and sharing your most dear sources, your time, your power, and your consideration with us all immediately. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”
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