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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama,” podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s wellness with an E on the top. And I’m right here at present with Dr. Robin Berzin, who’s the founder and CEO of Parsley Health, which is America’s main holistic medical observe, particularly designed to assist girls overcome power circumstances. And she based this firm to assist Americans fight the rising tide of power illness by, actually, personalised holistic drugs. And she’s additionally the creator of a brand new e-book known as, “State Change,” which we speak about at present.

 

And on this episode, we go into a whole lot of various things, root trigger, practical drugs, why psychological well being struggles aren’t simply in our head, they will begin in our our bodies, and easy methods to do a self-assessment to get a baseline, easy methods to get cheap labs, poor actions versus habits and why the distinction is essential, why she assessments thyroid ranges in each single affected person, why common is just not optimum and easy methods to perceive your lab outcomes, why girls had been excluded from medical analysis till 1993 and so lab ranges nonetheless don’t mirror correct ranges for ladies due to this, what to find out about metabolic syndrome in blood sugar, the superb science of meditation, and a lot extra.

 

Very sensible episode. She’s a whole lot of enjoyable to speak to, and I do know you’ll get pleasure from this as a lot as I did. So with out additional ado, let’s be a part of Dr. Berzin. Robin, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

 

Robin: Thank you for having me.

 

Katie: I really feel like it is a long-overdue dialog, and I’m so excited we lastly get to speak. And I really feel like a few of your present work is extraordinarily related to our viewers of girls and mothers who’re listening. So I can’t wait to leap in. But for background, for many who aren’t accustomed to you, I might guess many individuals are, however are you able to simply type of give us an summary of your background, and what led you to your present work path into beginning Parsley Health?

 

Robin: Yeah. Well, thanks for having me. Long overdue, for positive. Excited for this dialog. I’m a mother of three. My youngest is six months. I’m a health care provider. And I’m not solely educated in inside drugs, type of typical drugs, educated in New York City, however I additionally educated in one thing known as practical drugs, which is about attending to the foundation trigger, attending to the why. And these two trainings mixed collectively led me to see that there’s a highly effective want for all of us to have a type of drugs that’s really holistic, that appears at us as an entire individual, that understands our previous and our childhoods and the trauma that we’ve been by, and the context of our lives and what we’re consuming and the way we’re shifting, and whether or not or not we now have which means and objective, and must issue all of that into our plan for well being and wellness.

 

And so, all of that type of got here collectively for me, and I began the corporate known as Parsley Health to carry that type of drugs, the very best of typical major care plus the very best of a extra practical, holistic strategy collectively, so that you didn’t have to decide on, in order that we may assist lots of people heal, particularly girls, heal from the most typical points we now have at present, that are the autoimmune, the GI, the psychological well being, the hormone, the fertility, the center points, the blood sugar points, and that ladies really want a distinct type of care. So, that’s why I’m right here.

 

Katie: I positively had my very own journey with that within the early levels of Hashimoto’s, and making an attempt to get solutions from docs. And a whole lot of the traditional docs checked out every part type of in isolation. And the thyroid is its personal type of remoted a part of the physique that wasn’t linked to your intestine, or wasn’t linked to anything. And it was a journey of a lot of studying for me to uncover that. And I agree with you utterly. I believe the very best outcomes occur after we can use the very best of each worlds, and when we now have knowledgeable sufferers, who’re working with suppliers who’re in alignment. I’ve mentioned a whole lot of occasions on right here, we’re every our personal major well being care supplier, and we now have accountability for our well being, however the very best outcomes occur when we now have a practitioner who understands root trigger, and who is aware of what they’re doing, to information us.

 

And I do know a few of your current work, you might be speaking lots in regards to the relationship between power sickness and psychological well being. And I do know this, like, that mental-emotional aspect was an ignored piece for me for a very long time. That it was so humorous after I realized it, as a result of it actually was proper there the entire time. But let’s speak about that, as a result of I really feel like that is one thing that we’re beginning to perceive increasingly more not too long ago.

 

Robin: So, I forgot to additionally point out, I’m the creator of a e-book known as “State Change,” that got here out not too long ago, which is all in regards to the bodily limitations to peak psychological well being. And for therefore many people, we really feel like our psychological well being is in our heads. And but, for many people, our psychological well being is definitely beginning in our our bodies. And in our medical system, actually, psychological well being is its personal division. And the docs who’re centered on psychological well being don’t concentrate on the bodily. And the docs centered on the bodily don’t concentrate on psychological well being. And that’s not working, as a result of there’s no magic concrete wall between our heads and our our bodies. And what’s occurring in your physique is going on in your mind, and vice versa.

 

And after I began Parsley, you recognize, I didn’t begin it explicitly as a psychological well being service. It was actually for anybody affected by a power situation, a number of power circumstances, or simply signs they couldn’t determine. And what I noticed time and again that was type of magical was that we had been addressing nutrient deficiencies, excessive blood sugar, thyroid points, such as you had, that weren’t recognized, hormone points. Helping folks change how they handled their physique through the day when it got here to meals or motion, supplementation. And how, alongside the best way, folks had been getting off their psych medication, folks had been feeling higher, folks had been feeling extra in management. Like, they knew easy methods to help themselves when it got here to psychological well being.

 

And whether or not you may have a household historical past of psychological well being dysfunction or a private historical past of trauma, or whether or not you’re affected by the burnout and power fatigue and anxiousness, melancholy that we’ve all lived by for the previous couple years, irrespective of the place you fall in that, if you happen to don’t deal with what’s occurring within the physique, it’s like making an attempt to climb Everest and never attending to base camp. And so, I needed to create a roadmap for folks to get to base camp, as a result of we now have to search out our psychological well being, as you recognize, over and time and again proper now. It’s not one thing you decide off the psychological well being tree and stroll away with. It’s one thing we now have to domesticate each single day.

 

Katie: Yeah, and it is smart that that could be a back-and-forth relationship, that our bodily well being impacts psychological well being. Also, our psychological well being influences our selections with our bodily well being and vice versa. What are a few of the mechanisms bodily that may affect psychological well being? Like, I do know we hear in regards to the gut-brain connection, and the way intestine well being can affect psychological well being. And I do know there’s much more to it than that, however simply type of give us an summary of a few of these issues.

 

Robin: Yeah. You know, to start with, I at all times say you may’t know the place you’re going until you recognize the place you’ve been. And I don’t find out about you, however I don’t keep in mind what I had for lunch final Tuesday, not to mention, like, how anxious or foggy or drained I used to be. Or how bloated I used to be, or how a lot my proper knee ached or my left hip ached, you recognize, a month or two in the past. And so what we begin off with within the e-book, and what we provide at Parsley as nicely, is that this self-assessment. That’s a complete physique symptom rating, and also you give your self a rating. And it’s a quantity, as a result of, once more, we will’t keep in mind this stuff. We obtained an excessive amount of happening.

 

And so, while you give your self that quantity, and then you definitely begin to make a few of these interventions, you begin to see, “Oh, when my gut’s really flaring up, and my bloating and my reflux and my constipation and my gas are really bad, my brain fog and my headaches are really bad too.” And you begin to join the dots throughout the physique. So that’s really the place we begin, is that this preliminary evaluation of the place you’re at from a symptom perspective, out of your feminine hormones to your psychological well being, to your intestine well being to your musculoskeletal well being, as a result of it’s all linked.

 

And then what I like to recommend within the e-book after we speak about form of figuring this out can be some testing. And I record out the blood work you can take to your common physician, you may see us at Parsley, nationwide or on-line, or you may go to your common physician, be like, “Test these things.” Because let’s speak about your Hashimoto’s, proper? Thyroid problems. One in 5 girls will probably be recognized or have a thyroid situation in her lifetime. Most of that’s hypothyroid, so low functioning thyroid versus hyper, or excessive functioning. And when you may have hypothyroid, you get constipation, you get bloating, you get excessive ldl cholesterol, you get weight acquire, you get dry pores and skin, you get exhaustion, and also you get melancholy.

 

And I can’t let you know what number of girls have come to see us and had been placed on an antidepressant or instructed they had been depressed, and nobody had examined their thyroid for Hashimoto’s, which is a kind of thyroid, autoimmune-based hypothyroidism, or simply common selection, there’s two varieties. And after we discovered that they only had a thyroid dysfunction, we may deal with that, and every part else cleared up. And so we stroll you thru a few of the testing. And we will speak extra about this, however your blood sugar, in case your blood sugar is excessive, your mind is infected, you may be anxious. And greater than 50% of Americans have metabolic syndrome, or dysfunctional means to handle their very own blood sugar, proper? We eat, like, a, I believe it’s a 94% refined weight-reduction plan, ultra-refined weight-reduction plan. This is our flours, our sugars or processed meals. Anything that got here in a bag that you simply, like, pop open, or crinkles, like, didn’t develop out of the bottom, wasn’t an animal you might acknowledge strolling round.

 

Like, you recognize, these meals are creating irritation within the physique, are creating excessive ranges of blood sugar that we will’t management very nicely, as a result of our our bodies weren’t designed to eat these sorts of meals. And none of that is about shaming meals or calling a meals dangerous or good. But it is likely to be impacting your physique in a means that’s making you’re feeling foggy, anxious, depressed. And so, we stroll by the issues to check for in the case of your thyroid, your feminine hormones, your blood sugar, your adrenals, your coronary heart well being, irritation. And you may take that record, or like, rip the web page out within the e-book and take it to your physician.

 

And then we additionally, and we will get into this, we speak about a few of the issues that we do each single day. Foods, actions, how we take a look at know-how. Scrolling our social media, final time I checked, is just not serving to anyone out. When it involves psychological well being, and the analysis is basically there that it doesn’t. It’s really actually depleting our psychological well being. And so, then we speak within the e-book about assessing your signs, assessing your blood work, after which assessing your core actions. And I name them core actions, not habits, as a result of what you eat daily, and whether or not you sit for 11 hours a day, otherwise you stand up and transfer, these issues aren’t habits. Habits, is, like, biting your nails. Those issues are, like, core actions which can be defining how you’re feeling.

 

Katie: I really like that distinction. And to simply go slightly deeper on a few the belongings you mentioned, as a result of there have been so many good factors you simply made. On the thyroid aspect, I do know, in my expertise, and I don’t have Hashimoto’s now, all my ranges are regular and I don’t have antibodies, so I’m thought-about utterly Hashimoto’s-free. But after I was within the early levels, I might go to a health care provider and they might take a look at issues, and they might inform me, “Oh, your levels are normal.” And what I finally realized was, A, there appears to be some discrepancy relying on who you’re employed with on what is definitely thought-about regular ranges. And sadly, individuals who have thyroid issues are those which can be getting examined that they’re basing the degrees on.

 

As nicely as they didn’t take a look at my antibodies, or they examined, like, two issues, and so they determined these had been regular and didn’t take a look at anything. And so, that is the factor I really like to elucidate, as a result of if you happen to assume you might need a thyroid difficulty, and your physician’s solely testing a pair variables, they may not really be figuring out an underlying drawback. But I might love so that you can clarify that higher. Like, what do you take a look at in the case of thyroid?

 

Robin: So, day one, while you come to Parsley, and after I say come, I imply, see us on-line and we order assessments, your native LabCorp, Quest, whoever we’re working with, otherwise you’re working with on your insurance coverage. But what we do is we now have a baseline panel, the Parsley baseline, and we take a look at the total thyroid panel, together with antibodies, as part of that, in each single individual. Because that is so underdiagnosed, and it’s rampant. And after we take a look at, you recognize, lots of people say, “Well, I got a TSH done, and my doctor said it was normal.” Well, to start with, oftentimes, I’ll see folks are available with TSHs of 4 and 5, their physician mentioned, “Ah, that’s okay, it’s borderline.”

 

And there’s a distinction between regular and optimum. And we now have to grasp that the reference ranges, the ranges of regular on our lab assessments, are primarily based on the typical of our inhabitants at present. And our common inhabitants within the United States, 60% of individuals have a recognized power situation. Forty % have two or extra. Tens of thousands and thousands extra have a power situation, don’t comprehend it but, as a result of we take a look at reactively. We wait until you’re feeling horrible after which we take a look at. We don’t proactively take a look at for this stuff, which is incorrect. We’ve made ourselves up as, I name it a narrative. It’s like a Greek fable. Remember the Greek myths from, like, elementary college? I name it a Greek fable that lab testing is dear. It’s a lie that the labs have pulled over the insurance coverage firms, however testing all this blood work is, like, actually low-cost, and it’s getting cheaper daily.

 

And so we take a look at reactively and we take a look at these averages. And common is just not optimum. And our nation doesn’t really feel good, it feels sick. And girls are disproportionately, beneath 65, experiencing the overwhelming majority of the psychological well being points, the GI points, the autoimmune and irritation points, the fertility and hormone points. And girls had been excluded from medical analysis till 1993. And so, we now have a extremely form of problematic set of reference ranges. And so, folks will come to me and say, “Well, my TSH was fine.” And I’ll say, “Well, I don’t care if it was fine. Was it good? And did they test your free T4, free T3, anti-thyroglobulin antibody, anti-TPO?” These are the antibodies.

 

Antibodies, for everybody, are a part of your immune system that’s actually pure and essential, and it’s how we combat off colds and flus, however it will probably go haywire, and it will probably get triggered and assault a part of your personal physique. And 80% of autoimmune illness, which is a few type of antibodies are attacking some a part of your physique, is in girls, for causes that aren’t nicely understood. And Hashimoto’s, which you had and removed, and I wanna hear how you probably did that, as a result of that’s superior, you recognize, is basically, actually widespread. And so, when our antibodies, our immune system, assaults our thyroid, our thyroid’s means to perform nicely goes down.

 

We additionally take a look at for nutrient ranges, as a result of, how nicely your thyroid operates and the way nicely these hormones function in your physique additionally relies on selenium, zinc, vitamin D, which the overwhelming majority of Americans are poor in, iodine, iron, proper? So we wanna take a look at a few of these different issues that we will then appropriate. We additionally take a look at meals allergic reactions, as a result of gluten, for example, in wheat could be a massive set off for Hashimoto’s. And for some folks, not everybody, however some folks, that may be an issue. So we take a look at all of today one. And it may be an enormous unlock for folks to essentially perceive not simply what’s “within the normal range,” however what is perfect, and optimum for them.

 

Katie: Yeah, that’s such an essential level. And I’d like to additionally speak extra in regards to the blood sugar and the metabolic syndrome factor, as a result of I really feel like this isn’t talked about sufficient, regardless of the overwhelming majority of Americans having a few of these markers for metabolic syndrome. And the excellent news is, it looks like a whole lot of the issues that may assist affect these are very a lot inside our management. But are you able to type of give us an summary of what are the markers that outline metabolic syndrome, how we will use blood sugar to our benefit? I’ve beloved utilizing a steady glucose monitor just a few occasions to get knowledge alone physique and what it reacts to with totally different meals. And now, like, my fasting glucose is 73 or 74 each single day, and that’s useful knowledge I wouldn’t have recognized if I hadn’t tracked it. So, are you able to give us an summary and a primer on all issues blood sugar and metabolic syndrome?

 

Robin: Yeah. So, metabolic syndrome is principally the step earlier than diabetes. And for most individuals, diabetes is sort 2 diabetes, which is the sort that we develop by weight-reduction plan and life-style. So, sitting all day, consuming an excessive amount of sugar. The common American ought to be consuming lower than 25 grams of complete sugar a day, however they’re consuming 75. Oftentimes, one soda has 50 grams. And that’s like throwing a grenade in your digestive tract and watching it explode. That’s the way it feels to the physique while you eat one thing like that.

 

And so, the metabolic syndrome points are actually rampant, and it’s the place your physique’s having a tough time managing your blood sugar. And we have a tendency in drugs to look, once more, reactively, i.e. when it’s slightly too late, at hemoglobin A1C, which is a measure of whether or not or not you may have diabetes or metabolic syndrome. And if you happen to’re at 5.7 or above, it’s metabolic syndrome, and 6.5 or above is sort 2 diabetes. And I’m gonna skip sort 1 on the market for proper now. For all of you who’ve sort 1, I hear you, I see you, however we’re gonna speak about sort 2 for a second.

 

And the fact is that 5.7 being that cutoff is slightly bit arbitrary, and slightly bit late. And I don’t wish to see a hemoglobin A1C of even 5.4, or 5.5, as a result of it tells me we’re on our means. But once more, these are regular ranges. And what the A1C marker doesn’t do is let you know if you happen to’re in your means. And so what we take a look at at Parsley is fasting insulin and fasting glucose, that are early markers. And we wanna see that fasting insulin, ideally, nicely on, round 2 or undetectable, however positively nicely beneath 10. And we wanna see our fasting glucose, which means very first thing within the morning, haven’t eaten something, what’s that blood sugar stage? We wanna see that round 80, 70s and 80s. We don’t wanna see it too low. Like, 50 is just not good. So don’t preserve…it’s not like golf, the place you simply need to preserve happening.

 

But we wanna see it round 70s and 80s. And you wouldn’t consider the individuals who assume that they’re Mr. and Mrs. Healthy, consuming all the appropriate issues, shifting, who’ve a fasting glucose of, like, 95, 100. And that tells us that our physique’s having hassle managing blood sugar. And when blood sugar is perpetually excessive, your insulin goes up, you begin storing extra fats, particularly across the stomach. You begin getting extra irritation and immune dysfunction within the physique, your testosterone goes up. So, polycystic ovarian syndrome, which is basically simply, not a illness, however a syndrome, is the primary reason behind fertility troubles at present, after age. And that’s largely a metabolic difficulty. So, our blood sugar impacts our hormones, and our blood sugar additionally impression our brains and our anxiousness ranges. And it’s one thing that we have to be much more proactive about.

 

Katie: And I really like your use of the phrase, like, the core actions versus habits. I believe that’s a really…and it additionally speaks to us having extra management over it. And it appears extra enjoyable than simply habits. I’d love so that you can speak about a few of the perhaps damaging ones that we now have, which can be essentially the most negatively impactful, and likewise a few of the constructive ones we will construct which can be gonna be type of 80/20 finest issues we will do.

 

Robin: So, we dwell actually totally different lives at present, proper? I imply, I take into consideration myself as a child within the ’80s, after which what my youngsters reside as little ones, like my five-year-old at present, and simply what a distinct world it’s. And I believe generally we now have to take a step again for ourselves and acknowledge that. We’re, like, battling by the day. Be the mother, do the work, get by all of it, proper, get to mattress, have a social life, do your job, like… And generally I believe we neglect that the best way which we’re dwelling all day, daily has been radically remodeled up to now few many years. And that’s placing a stage of stress on us that I believe that we’re cracking beneath.

 

So after we speak in regards to the lives we’re dwelling and the rampant burnout and melancholy and anxiousness that many people are experiencing, we additionally need to do not forget that that isn’t simply coming from inside. It’s coming from outdoors. But to your level, we do have management over it. So, the most important ones are what we eat, how we transfer, and our relationship with know-how, which aren’t habits, once more, as a result of these dominate our waking life.

 

And so, on the meals aspect, we talked about sugar, and refined and processed meals. If you take away these meals out of your weight-reduction plan, and likewise eliminate the omega-6 fat, these are the canola oils, vegetable oils, grapeseed, rapeseed oils. We’re presupposed to eat a couple of four-to-one ratio of omega-6s to omega-3s. That’s what’s wholesome for our physique. Average individual’s consuming 26 to 1. Because all these vegetable oils are in all of the processed meals and all of the deli bars, and all of the issues that we eat, and they’re interrupting our mind’s means to make use of the serotonin we now have.

 

We at all times hear about this, the feel-good hormone, and it’s like, be, why is everybody, you recognize, so shy of serotonin at present? Well, a part of it’s that we’re consuming meals that make it inconceivable for our brains to make use of the serotonin we now have. So, reducing out these processed meals, cooking your meals, even cooking two out of three meals a day, I do know we’re busy, I do know we gotta seize and go generally. I do it too. But that’s the primary factor you are able to do.

 

And once more, what you place in your mouth daily is data for each single cell in your physique, and the microbes that dwell in your intestine. And what you eat is impacting how you’re feeling, not 20 years from now, however proper now. And so, I believe for lots of people, that’s a extremely thrilling wake-up name, and I do know for me it’s cheaper to prepare dinner, and batch prepare dinner, than it’s to eat out and purchase processed meals at present, as a result of these costs have actually gone up. That’s primary.

 

The second one is we sit, on common, 11 hours a day. We sit on our bottoms. And we now have legs. And we weren’t meant to try this. And the physique is designed to course of feelings by motion. The physique is designed to course of our feelings by motion. And so, while you sit, these feelings get caught. So, I is likely to be sitting right here proper now pondering, “Wow, this is a really big podcast. I’m really nervous. Katie’s so amazing, and I wanted to meet her forever.” And I’ll not even consciously, like, assume that thought. It might not even form of go throughout the, you recognize, the TV display screen in my mind, however I form of have it in a flash. And then I’ve an emotional response to that thought, which is slightly little bit of worry.

 

And the second I’ve that emotional response, a wave of neurotransmitters and hormones cascades by my physique, touching each single cell. And that cascade, that wave, takes about 48 hours to clear. So, think about you’re feeling careworn and scared, and offended, and all of the feelings we really feel one million occasions a day. And you’re sitting, and also you’re not processing these feelings. That’s how… We speak about feelings getting caught within the physique as if it’s this, like, I’m gonna use an unpopular phrase, however, like, woo-woo factor. And what we speak about within the e-book is that it’s very scientifically-backed actuality. And this cascade of neurotransmitters and hormones can in the end impression your cells’ means to perform, impacts your blood sugar, impacts your immune system, makes it tougher to heal. And that’s how we get weak point and illness over time, proper.

 

So, feelings translate by the physique, and after we’re shifting, we wash that wave out. And but we sit 11 hours a day. So, getting up and shifting, each single hour, ensuring you’re spending half-hour to an hour a day. Could be strolling, it may very well be dancing, it may very well be leaping on a trampoline. I do know, for myself, and I do know from so a lot of our feminine sufferers, like, motion has been hooked up to disgrace, and form of “shoulds,” and the very last thing we want as mothers is one other “should.” And so, within the e-book, I write lots about motion and train. In research, in 95% of sufferers, anxiousness and melancholy improved with common train. And solely 40% to 50% improved with remedy. Doesn’t imply we don’t want the remedy. Medication is a good looking device, nevertheless it’s not sufficient.

 

And so, we put train in that means on the prescription pad, not as a result of it’s about getting match or trying sizzling. This e-book is just not about that. It’s about feeling good, proper now. And these are issues that we will do without cost. There’s so many nice exercises on YouTube and Instagram and all of the locations, that I benefit from. So, these are the issues which can be in our management, that may assist us create a state change, a shift in how we really feel, each single day.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I believe you’re proper. There’s a distinct societal expectation now, particularly on girls. And I’ve heard it mentioned, you recognize, mothers are anticipated to work like they don’t have youngsters, after which guardian like they don’t need to work. And we stock a lot greater than we used to. And I really like additionally that you simply introduced up the concept feelings retailer within the physique. Reading “The Body Keeps the Score” was a extremely, like, mind-opening for me. And I began to truly perceive issues on a deeper stage after I began making these connections and being attentive to each feelings, and the place I used to be feeling them in my physique.

 

And I believe you’re proper. It doesn’t need to be an intensive course of, usually, to unpack these. It’s, motion is so useful. And for me, it was useful to unpack and have a distinction between, like, train and motion, which I type of outline as virtually like play. Because you’re proper, I believe we now have some damaging societal issues hooked up to train. And it’s like a factor we should always do, and I might argue there’s even a whole lot of misinformation about the best way we “should” do it, and what we do within the health club, that’s not even that efficient. And so, I believe, like, train and power coaching and sprinting, these are essential issues and people are nice instruments. But motion is a much wider class. And simply issues like going outdoors, you’re getting all these advantages of daylight and recent air and motion.

 

And then additionally, the concept we predict we form the environment. And we do, however the environment additionally shapes us, to your level. And so, if we will modify our environments to be extra pleasant to simply motion, like fixed motion versus train, that’s led to my home having, and I’ve talked about this earlier than, however, like, a gymnastics mat within the hallway, and a climbing hold board within the kitchen, and yoga swings within the child’s room, simply because if it’s there, and it’s in our means, we have a tendency to make use of it extra.

 

Robin: Yeah. Absolutely. Like, take the yoga mat out of the closet and simply lie it down in your flooring, so it’s at all times proper there. And, you recognize, for me, like, I’m not a health club individual. Like, I’m that one that… I believe I went not too long ago, as a result of often I’ll go. And the little, you recognize, card reader says, “Congratulations. You were last here 63 days ago,” and I’m like, “Oh. Great.” But, you recognize, I love to do yoga, I love to do weight coaching at house. I like being outdoors and being in nature. And so, these are issues that, you recognize, make me really feel good. And it has nothing to do with that form of punishment mentality that I believe all of us obtained schooled on in, like, the ’90s by some means. The ’90s had been, like, the period of, like, go to the health club, punish your self.

 

And we now have a lot energy to shift how we really feel in these moments with these little issues. And so, what I’ve actually centered on within the e-book was the science of that. Because I believe that, you recognize, even within the wellness neighborhood, generally there’s slightly bit dismissiveness of the medical analysis behind this stuff. And there’s huge dismissiveness of those practices within the medical neighborhood. So I write in regards to the science of meditation. Meditation is confirmed. It’s free. It’s confirmed to rewire your mind, cut back your cortisol, assist your digestion, assist your blood sugar, your hypertension, provide help to focus, provide help to sleep higher.

 

And that is all there. It really rebuilds grey matter within the mind, that the social media and information feeds that we stare in any respect day are depleting. Those instruments are literally negatively remodeling the construction of your mind. And meditation is, like, constructing within the different path, and forming new connections. Exercise helps your mind kind new connections. Meditation does as nicely. And so, you recognize, within the medical neighborhood, we’re not utilizing a few of these confirmed instruments. And so what’s actually enjoyable, for me, you recognize, I do know the analysis and I’ve learn the analysis, nevertheless it was actually enjoyable within the e-book to dive in and say, “All right, let me go back and, like, reread and revisit some of these studies.” And simply, even I used to be blown away once more by how compelling the analysis is behind train for psychological well being, meditation, vitamin. And, you recognize, vitamin is the primary factor on our prescription pad at Parsley. It’s like, it ought to be the primary prescription pad all over the place, due to its energy to remodel how we really feel at present, and the highest power circumstances we’re all dwelling with.

 

Katie: Yeah, and I really like your level about meals being principally like chemical inputs into the physique, not simply energy. I believe that was one other damaging aspect impact of the ’90s and the limiting energy. And there have been, after all, well-talked-about damaging unwanted effects of weight-reduction plan tradition on girls, and the connection we now have with meals, and, like, having worry or guilt or disgrace associated to meals. For me, it was useful to shift to a mindset of how, like, what’s essentially the most nourishment per calorie or per quantity that I can get for a meals? Not, like, what’s the bottom calorie factor I can eat? And that alone helps you keep away from so many processed meals. But what are a few of your dietary tips that you simply give girls? Because my basic take is simply that we’re generally overeating, for ladies, usually undereating…however for positive, under-nourishing ourselves. Like, we’re virtually, like, malnourished, even when we’re consuming sufficient energy.

 

Robin: Yes. We are overfed and undernourished. And that’s partially as a result of the meals business has executed a quantity on all of us. I imply, you stroll by the airport, and I simply marvel at, like, the junk, the literal anti meals, the poisonous crap, that’s all over the place. And it’s positioned as simply, like, it is a regular factor to eat. And you take a look at the label… I used to be on the airport the opposite day, and I regarded on the label on a inexperienced juice. A inexperienced juice. And it had 50-something grams of sugar in a single little bottle, which is twice as a lot sugar that we should always have in a whole day. And so, we’ve simply been offered one thing that’s incorrect. And in order that’s a part of it, together with the form of inaccurate details about energy.

 

I’ll put it this manner. A cup of broccoli and a cup of soda, similar quantity, gonna have two very totally different impacts in your physique. Gonna develop totally different microbes in your intestine, gonna have totally different impacts in your blood sugar. One’s gonna create irritation, complications, and a crash. One’s gonna gasoline you and provide help to detoxify your hormones by your liver, and preserve you full and satiated. And so, for us, no less than in our consuming philosophy round psychological well being and bodily well being, it’s round, we name it plant-based paleo, which doesn’t imply you can’t have animal merchandise. But it’s specializing in crops, entire meals, greens you can acknowledge. They’re not pulverized right into a cookie, cracker, bar, pretzel, one thing. You know, I see all these, like, cauliflower pretzels now. Even I, like, I purchased this, proper, on the well being meals retailer for my youngsters, and I’m like, “This is still junk food. This is still, like, processed grossness.” It’s not a cauliflower, folks. It’s a pretzel. Let’s, like, personal it.

 

But, you recognize, and so, consuming these entire meals, lean protein, fish. Looking for well-sourced animal protein can be so essential, not the manufacturing facility farmed stuff. And if you happen to can, if it’s attainable, if it’s not attainable in your finances, then consuming some type of protein is means higher than consuming any type of sugar. And for lots of people, not all people, however being gluten-free and dairy-free could be actually instructive. And I say instructive as a result of these meals are usually not dangerous or good. We’ve made it very binary, and I don’t love that a part of the house.

 

Dairy could be a lovely meals for some folks. Dairy can style actually good, and be actually well-sourced, and be the supply of allergic reactions, sinus infections, bronchial asthma, zits, eczema, digestive problems, and be a extremely problematic meals for different folks. Wheat, and gluten, which is the protein in wheat, could be a actually massive autoimmune set off, and even a psychological well being set off for some folks. It’s a set off for mind fog, and complications, and irritability. And so, folks take gluten out of their lives for 3 or 4 weeks and are like, “Oh my god. My digestion feels exactly like it did before. I don’t have any digestive issues with gluten, but man, my head feels clear. And I don’t have my migraines anymore.”

 

And so, eradicating the refined and processed meals, getting these omega-3s, like your olive oil, your walnuts, your small fish, like your herring, sardines. And then, actually specializing in testing if, three, 4 weeks of no gluten, no dairy impacts you. Because if it does, it’s placing you within the driver’s seat round which meals are making you’re feeling good or dangerous on a given day. And then you may select. Like, at present is likely to be pizza day, and that’s superior. But daily received’t be pizza day, as a result of you understand how pizza makes you’re feeling.

 

Katie: Yeah, and I believe you introduced up one other good level about protein. Because one of many different unwanted effects of us consuming this very processed meals and carb-rich weight-reduction plan is, I discovered no less than, many individuals are usually not getting sufficient protein, or no less than this was definitely true for me. I assumed I used to be, after which after I really began monitoring what I used to be consuming, I noticed I’m not getting sufficient protein, particularly with the quantity of power coaching I’m doing. And switching to extra protein and much more, like, fibers, greens, I’ve days the place I’m like, “Oh my gosh. I have to eat so much food.” But my physique has a lot power and I’m so nourished, that it was, like, a shift out of that deprivation type of weight-reduction plan mindset that I had had for therefore lengthy.

 

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I’m additionally curious your tackle dietary supplements, as a result of definitely, it is a subject with many, many opinions. And all people’s, after all, going to be very bio-individual, and there’s personalization right here. But it looks like there are additionally some classes the place, usually, as a inhabitants, we are likely to not…it’s tougher to get a few of these sure vitamins due to the meals provide being what it’s. What is your recommendation to folks on dietary supplements?

 

Robin: Yeah. So, you recognize, dietary supplements, I really like that you simply introduced that up, like, get vilified. Like, “They’re useless and just make your pee really expensive,” or, “They’re really dangerous,” or… And I’m like, it’s actually exhausting for one thing to be actually each actually harmful and actually, like, ineffective on the similar time. So, you recognize, most medical suppliers are usually not supplement-literate. And we’re, and dietary supplements could be a actually highly effective device. Most dietary supplements on the shelf are ineffective, as a result of it’s a poorly-regulated business, and so, I see folks… I keep in mind being at, like, a well being meals grocery retailer in LA years in the past. And this girl was standing, taking a look at this, like, wall of dietary supplements, and every part mentioned hormone this and hormone that. And there was most likely, like, a 19-year-old, like, store employee man, and she or he’s taking a look at him and she or he’s like, “It’s my hormones. Which thing should I take?” And he’s like, “I think that one will work.” And I used to be simply standing there, like, biting my nails, like, “No, no. Oh, God, don’t do it,” proper.

 

So, there may be a whole lot of ineffective stuff on the market. That mentioned, dietary supplements could be actually highly effective instruments. And the best way I take into consideration them is we’re not utilizing them to appropriate a deficiency, largely. Like, sometimes, folks aren’t so poor in vitamin C that they’ll get scurvy, like a sailor from the 1800s. But we aren’t optimum. And we will use dietary supplements as therapeutic instruments. So, I’d prescribe magnesium glycinate or magnesium threonate as a extremely lovely sleep support, or a extremely lovely anxiety-calming complement. And so, I’m not correcting a magnesium deficiency with that device. I’m utilizing it therapeutically for a psychological well being or sleep purpose.

 

Similarly, many individuals like myself, 66% of individuals have some type of an MTHFR genetic variant. Its not a mutation, it’s only a variant. It modifications how we make neurotransmitters like serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine. And so, a daily B vitamin doesn’t work for me. But after I take, or my sufferers who’ve this variant, take a methylated B vitamin, methylated B12, or 5-MTHF, which is methylated folate, or ideally each, you make extra serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and it may be a really massive temper enhancer.

 

Now, it’s not like a Xanax. You can’t take it as soon as. You gotta take it daily. And that’s the place I additionally see folks go incorrect. They obtained all these dietary supplements on the kitchen counter, and so they’re, like, mendacity there. And they’re like, “Well, some days I take a little of this, and some days I take a little…” And I’m like, that’s… It’s like taking 1 / 4 of an antibiotic and questioning why your sinus an infection doesn’t go away, proper? It’s not gonna work. So, you gotta take them frequently.

 

And so, within the e-book, I write about a few of the core, type of kick starter dietary supplements, like magnesium glycinate, like methylated B nutritional vitamins, which many individuals, many, many, many individuals profit from. Like a probiotic, to assist shift our intestine micro organism, as a result of our intestine micro organism are literally serving to form which neurotransmitters are lively in our brains. Like omega-3 fat, so we will shift that stability I spoke about earlier away from these vegetable oils and in direction of these omega-3s that actually feed our brains. Our brains are manufactured from fats. Our brains are about 70% manufactured from fats. So getting these wholesome fat in could be actually useful, additionally, by way of decreasing irritation. And then, vitamin D.

 

Most individuals are decrease in vitamin D. If you spend an hour a day outdoors completely bare, then extra energy to you. Like, you will not be low in vitamin D. But most of us have gotten the hat and the sunscreen and the garments. And we’ve been educated that, you recognize, the solar is, like, harmful. Which it’s not, however, you recognize, inside cause. So, vitamin D deficiency, which the vast majority of Americans have some type of, it will probably masks as melancholy. And so we advocate vitamin D3 K2. So, a few of these…these are a few of the fundamentals. And then there’s a whole lot of others the place you will get slightly bit fancy.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s such an essential factor, that distinction between it’s not nearly deficiency. Like, we’re not simply making an attempt to get into, like, not really clinically poor in one thing, that a few of these are instruments to get into extra optimum vary. And no less than from what I’ve learn, there’s issues like, for example, that it’s troublesome to check for magnesium ranges, for example. And the assessments could be considerably unreliable, or simply complicated, I believe. And, like, I’ve learn that not a whole lot of magnesium is definitely saved within the blood, so blood assessments are type of not essentially a great marker of that, whereas most individuals are usually low on magnesium anyway, and it’s not one which’s sometimes harmful to take. So it’s type of, to me, that’s, like, a terrific insurance coverage coverage. Like, I take magnesium on a regular basis.

 

And I’m… Vitamin D as nicely, I’ve seen or not it’s life-changing for folks. I’m am personally a naked-in-the-sun-for-an-hour-a-day sort of individual. But I dwell in an space the place that’s attainable. And I understand most individuals don’t essentially have entry to year-round sunshine. But I really feel like each of these additionally level to a different essential subject, which is sleep. And this may for positive be a fall-down level, particularly for mothers. And it looks like sleep is a lever that completely impacts psychological well being, very instantly, even very acutely. Like, someday of sleep deprivation, we aren’t mentally on our recreation the subsequent day. So, what are a few of the methods we will help sleep through the day, like, these core actions we will construct?

 

Robin: Sleep is such a troublesome one, proper? I really feel prefer it’s a troublesome one for all of us. And I do know, like, I’ve a six-month-old. I do know if in case you have little ones, you’re identical to, “Great, thanks. Thanks for the newsflash that I should be sleeping more,” you recognize. But inside that, what you may concentrate on is high quality sleep, as a result of high quality issues simply as a lot as amount. And so, that may imply every part for ensuring… You know, I dwell in New York City, and I dwell beneath a big rock known as youngsters and work, so I barely see the sunshine of day a whole lot of the time. And that’s my actuality. I want I’m like gonna transfer all the way down to the place you reside, so we will change that, or I’m right here in Austin proper now, and I’m like, “Ooh. Sunshine is amazing.” But again to sleep, getting outdoors within the morning, and getting publicity to sunshine within the morning can really assist actually set that circadian clock, and get your physique type of prepared for what’s a traditional day.

 

And then, on the flip aspect, solar setting or night, so, actually dimming the lights, turning down the lights. And I like to recommend a screen-free 30, or 60, ideally, earlier than mattress. So, earlier than mattress is your time to stretch, meditate, learn a hardcover e-book, prep lunch or prep meals for the subsequent day, meditate, breathe, take an extended bathtub, proper. But it’s not the time to be operating, working, catching up, or scrolling your social media, as a result of that actually impacts our sleep. And we’ve heard lots in regards to the blue gentle emanating from telephones, and now there’s, you recognize, apps and stuff you can display screen that blue gentle out. Blue gentle’s a part of it, nevertheless it’s really been proven that it’s simply the pure stimulation of taking a look at TV, or telephone, or pc earlier than mattress, that’s telling your mind it’s time to rev, rev, rev and go, go, go, and then you definitely don’t have high quality sleep.

 

Cold, darkish room. I can’t converse to this sufficient. Lots of people are sleeping in a extremely sizzling house. So, I do know there’s these fancy… My husband obtained one. Like, the mattress covers that cool you down. He loves it. I really feel like I’m sleeping, like, my reptilian mind makes me really feel like I’m sleeping in a shallow pool of chilly water, and I discover it actually disturbing. So, like, to every his or her personal, proper, on these issues. But simply cooling your room down at night time if you happen to can, to that 65 to 67 diploma Fahrenheit actually impacts your metabolism and your sleep high quality. Darkness. I put on a watch masks. I put on earplugs lots. Like, I don’t have to get up each time the infant simply has, like, fuss, fuss, fuss at this level, you recognize. He’s not, you recognize, within the first couple months anymore. If he’s actually crying, I’ll nonetheless hear him, so it’s okay. But I believe that, you recognize, actually setting ourself up for that wholesome sleep.

 

And then, alcohol, you recognize, if I see yet one more wine and mommy meme, I’m gonna lose it. But, like, you recognize, we have to study constructive strategies of managing our feelings. And on this tradition, we’re taught harmful strategies of managing our feelings. Alcohol, overworking, medication, taking a look at screens, taking a look at media. And it’s okay. Like, I had a cocktail final night time at an occasion. And I’ll have a glass of wine right here and there. But, like, if you happen to’re consuming extra days than you’re not, your sleep is disruptive, even when it’s a drink or two. And I believe lots of people, particularly girls, don’t understand that they’re consuming slightly bit greater than I believe they assume they’re.

 

And so, actually looking at that, and I write about that within the e-book. And it’s to not say, once more, I nonetheless drink some alcohol periodically. So, if you happen to can have it as a wholesome a part of your life, then okay, however I believe we have to set clear boundaries round what that really means, as a result of alcohol, in the case of sleep, it impairs your physique’s means to succeed in the decrease resting coronary heart fee and decrease core physique temperature that mean you can attain deep sleep and get by extra of these REM cycles that you’ll want to really feel rested the subsequent day. So after I hear, “Well, I just had that one glass of wine at 6:00 or 7:00, and I sleep eight hours, and, you know, I don’t get why I’m exhausted all the time,” I say, “Well, let’s take that one glass of wine at 6:00 or 7:00 or 8:00 to zero on at least four nights a week, or take a three-week hiatus and see how you feel.” And folks can see a extremely massive distinction.

 

Katie: Yeah, I’m a giant fan of biking issues. And particularly going off alcohol in spurts for a pair months at a time. Or, like, I like to do, I don’t have to keep away from gluten and dairy anymore, however I discover that if I simply cut back a whole lot of these type of meals, and alcohol, for 2 or three weeks, it’s like a terrific reset, and I simply actually concentrate on intestine well being throughout that point. And that tends to, like… I don’t wanna ever get again into the Hashimoto’s zone, in order that’s type of considered one of my preemptive issues.

 

I really like that you simply introduced up the display screen time factor as nicely. I believe one of many best issues we may all do for our well being is simply cease participating with the information altogether. But to your level in regards to the stimulation of social media, I’ve these, like, purple gentle filters on my telephone. And I nonetheless don’t wish to get on my telephone at night time, however there was an evening when my group was like, “Hey, you need to check out these things on TikTok,” as a result of we have to begin placing content material on TikTok. And I had by no means been on TikTok, and so I began scrolling by it proper earlier than mattress, and I couldn’t flip my mind off, as a result of it had simply been, like, proven all these hyper-stimulating issues. And it was a horrible night time of sleep.

 

The similar with alcohol, although. That’s a type of issues. Wearing a tracker on a regular basis now, it’s like I’ve conclusive knowledge for myself that even one drink, I get a lot much less deep sleep, my HRV is decrease, my resting coronary heart fee is up, and I don’t get well. And so, I’ve needed to, similar to you, like, I nonetheless drink from time to time, nevertheless it definitely isn’t an in a single day factor, or I simply don’t get well from exercises and I don’t get good sleep. And it’s not value that trade-off.

 

And I do know out of your private expertise, while you’re penning this e-book, you had two youngsters already, I consider, after which obtained pregnant along with your third, and are operating an organization, and I’ve been in that zone as nicely. So I’m curious what classes you took for your self, as a result of I do know when I’m deep in analysis, I’m like, “Oh, I logically sort of knew this, but I need to apply this.”

 

Robin: Yes. I imply, hear, I can’t be my very own physician. And I do know all the data, proper? But, like, we will learn a weblog submit about private coaching. That doesn’t make us a private coach. I definitely am not geared up to be a private coach for myself. And, you recognize, I not solely want all these reminders, I want help, proper. And I believe, as mothers, we’re going by a time frame, and also you mentioned it amazingly earlier, like, we’re presupposed to care for our children like we’re not working, and work like we don’t have youngsters. And that turns into actually inconceivable. And so, setting boundaries, taking outing, particularly in a world the place for lots of us, earn a living from home, if that’s the place you’re at. Not all people is. But that may imply type of being at all times on. There’s no clocking out. It’s simply, your work is at all times proper right here on this little field that I’m sitting in entrance of.

 

And so, setting these boundaries, to start with, and setting these calendar invitations. I’m a giant fan of, like, calendar invitations for myself. I block time daily for yoga on my calendar, that my group can’t schedule over. I block time within the night sure nights of week, for, like, my self-care time. And I put it on like a gathering. It’s simply as essential as an investor assembly or a key rent, or no matter else I’m doing. I believe that blocking these issues out and treating your calendar on your life as severely as you deal with your calendar on your day job, if that’s what you’re doing, is basically important.

 

And then, simply actually figuring out, like, the place I can push it and the place I can’t. And hear, generally I push it too far, and my physique exhibits up and tells me that I pushed it too far, like, energetically, after which I hear. I imply, I’ll let you know the story. Like, it’s actually embarrassing, however final week, I’m right here in Texas for a pair weeks, working distant. I flew early morning to Chicago for the day on Thursday, from Austin, again to Chicago the identical day. Back at 1:00 within the morning. Next morning, I’m a giant intermittent quicker, works for me, doesn’t work for everyone, however I’m previous breastfeeding and previous being pregnant, and executed having youngsters ceaselessly, woohoo. So I can, you recognize, get again to my biohacking. And I present up at a enterprise lunch, and I obtained dizzy, and I needed to put my head down on the desk, and I instructed my husband to come back get me.

 

And it was a type of days the place it was simply an excessive amount of. And I cleared my calendar, and I simply rested that afternoon. And it was like, I believe generally we push by and push by and push by. And I’m any person who tends to motor, motor, motor, go, go, go. And again to the calendaring and the setting limits, I’ve actually cleared out my calendar for a few days this week, not simply Friday, after I wasn’t feeling nicely. But by this week, as a result of I used to be like, “Oh, I need to actually recover.” Not like a pair hours on a Friday, however I want to essentially give myself that point and house. And I believe we as girls simply don’t give ourself that point and house, after which we’re operating on empty. I’ve so many sufferers who’re on youngsters two, three, and by no means type of put the gasoline again within the tank between one and two, or between two and three. And then the depletion begins to essentially take over.

 

And so, a giant factor that we do, we do a whole lot of preconception optimization, fertility work, serving to girls get pregnant. Supporting their our bodies. They’re nonetheless on their very own in the case of really getting pregnant. We do a whole lot of maternity help, we do a whole lot of postpartum optimization and therapeutic, and, you recognize, coping with all of the stuff that’s occurring there, from psychological well being to autoimmune, every part. And in that postpartum interval, we actually focus lots on how are you rehabilitating your self and placing gasoline again in your tank? Because if you happen to didn’t try this between the final two youngsters, you’re gonna begin to actually run on empty.

 

And I believe girls don’t get that permission lots. They simply get, you recognize, take one other capsule, preserve going. And sooner or later, no remedy is gonna substitute actually taking a timeout and restoring, for, like, weeks at a time. And I’ll prescribe to my sufferers, I’m like, “You have to take a break.” And that’s, like, in your prescription pad, not simply along with your refill.

 

Katie: Yeah, and that’s I really feel like a tough shift to make, particularly for mothers. And one I’ve needed to study the exhausting means as nicely is to place… I now consider it as I’ve scheduled a very powerful issues first on my calendar. And these issues are the issues that give me power to do the work. So, earlier than work conferences can go on my schedule, my exercises go on my schedule, household dinners go on my schedule, time with my youngsters goes on my schedule, and people are non-negotiable. And I realized… I used to be in a behavior for lots of years of type of, like, caretaking, that I might by no means have thought-about not exhibiting up for my youngsters after they wanted me. But I wasn’t exhibiting up for myself, which additionally made me much less capable of present up for my household. And in order that was a lesson I needed to educate myself.

 

And it’s humorous. I consider a correlation primarily based on what you mentioned of, you recognize, I can know lots about private coaching. I’m not a private coach. That’s a terrific analogy. I additionally consider, like, I’m a doula. I’ve been by a few of scholar midwifery college. And but, after I was in labor, all of that went utterly out the window, and I remembered nothing. And I used to be simply, like, though if another person was in labor, and after they’re hitting that house of, like, “I can’t do it,” I might be like, “Oh, you’re almost there. This means this and this, and you’re in transition.” When I’m there, I’m like, “No, this is gonna last forever.” And while you’re in it, it’s exhausting to see the ten,000-foot view, so it’s at all times useful to have these nice sources of steerage from outdoors, which type of loops again to the preliminary level about work with practitioners who’re your companions, and who you may actually align your objectives and transfer towards the place you wanna go.

 

And as we get very near the top of our time, I can’t consider how briskly this has blown by, a pair extra questions I like to ask, the primary being if there’s a e-book or various books which have profoundly influenced your life, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

 

Robin: I really like “The Power of Now,” by Eckhart Tolle. And I believe, you recognize, we study very early in life in our tradition to type of future journey and dwell on the previous, and we don’t discover ways to be right here. And I’m definitely responsible of that. So that’s one which I come again to time and again and over, that actually shifted my perspective on actuality, that I extremely advocate.

 

Katie: I really like that one as nicely. I’ll put a hyperlink to that within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm, after all, with a hyperlink to your e-book as nicely. If folks need to continue learning from you or perhaps have particular questions associated to preconception optimization, or postpartum, or any of those subjects we’ve talked about, the place is the very best place to search out you and continue learning from you on-line?

 

Robin: So, parsleyhealth.com. And we now have an superior e-newsletter, everybody, with superb… I imply, I’m speaking to the content material queen right here, so I don’t even know why ought to I say this. But we now have a tremendous e-newsletter, all doctor authored and edited, well being coach authored and edited, that provides a lot of step-by-step instruments. You can purchase the e-book “State Change,” which is my easy roadmap for locating and re-finding higher psychological well being each single day, in, wherever books are offered, Amazon and Barnes & Noble and, after all, all of the locations.

 

If you’re seeking to simply do, get your symptom rating, and do it on-line, I might take a look at parsleyhealth.com/insights. Anybody can simply go there and get their symptom rating, and type of start that technique of that first step, which is, I have to know the place I’m proper now with the intention to direct myself to a brand new place. And then it’s @Parsley_Health or @robinberzinmd on all of the socials.

 

Katie: Awesome. Those hyperlinks will probably be within the present notes as nicely. And any parting recommendation for the listeners at present that may very well be associated to one thing we’ve talked about, or completely unrelated?

 

Robin: Don’t let excellent be the enemy of actually good. Just begin.

 

Katie: I adore it. Well, we’ve gotten by a lot at present. This has been so useful and sensible. I do know you’re a busy mother and a busy physician. I’m very grateful for you being right here at present and sharing your knowledge with us.

 

Robin: Oh, my, gosh. I’m so grateful to you. Thank you for all of the work you do, and thanks for having me.

 

Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening, and sharing your most respected assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

 

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