Jimmy Rex on Putting a Stop to Sex Trafficking & What to Watch For

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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this episode tackles a troublesome subject, however I feel a really, essential one in at present’s world. And that’s the subject of intercourse trafficking. I’m right here with Jimmy Rex, who’s an unbelievable one who chooses to reside his life in a manner the place not one second goes to waste. And for him, this implies actively being on the bottom, serving to rescue individuals from intercourse trafficking, amongst many, many, many different issues.

 

He’s at the moment, as an example, an energetic actual property agent with one of the crucial sought out teaching packages within the nation about actual property. And he’s additionally a highly regarded speaker. He has his personal podcast referred to as “The Jimmy Rex Show” that exhibits extraordinary individuals, dwelling extraordinary lives. And he additionally spends time attempting to make a distinction on the planet, together with as an undercover operative for varied organizations that rescue individuals from intercourse trafficking, together with quite a few very harmful journeys to different nations to save lots of younger kids and youngsters.

 

And we discuss this at present, how he’s labored on 12 completely different operations to rescue individuals, how it is a widespread drawback in lots of U.S. cities and worldwide, and the way typically, once they land in a brand new place, they can discover individuals being trafficked inside simply a few hours. Why intercourse trafficking doesn’t all the time appear to be you assume it might, and what to look at for. Why these organizations spend six instances as a lot on aftercare than rescues, and the way they help individuals after they’re rescued. And issues like the best way to educate your children to pay attention to the danger, what to look out for in your individual children and of their buddies, necessary boundaries to assist your children put in place so they are going to be much less in danger, tech tips to pay attention to. How, particularly kids, are focused by expertise and social media. Some journey ideas associated to staying secure, particularly in different nations. Important conversations to have together with your children round this subject, and steps we are able to all take to assist this drawback worldwide, in addition to some actually fascinating aspect tangents about Jimmy and what he does on the planet. So like I stated, robust subject, however I feel an necessary one. And I feel that you’ll be taught rather a lot. I do know I did and didn’t notice fairly how widespread and horrific this drawback is. So on that be aware, let’s be a part of Jimmy.

 

Katie: Jimmy, welcome. Thanks for being right here.

 

Jimmy: Hey, I admire you having me on, thanks.

 

Katie: Well, I’m excited to talk at present a couple of subject that I feel lots of people perhaps choose not to consider, however one which I feel is de facto, actually necessary. And that’s the subject of childhood intercourse trafficking. And I do know that’s an intense one. And we’re gonna go plenty of completely different instructions with this. But before everything, I might love to listen to how you bought into this work within the first place.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, so our mutual good friend, Paul Hutchinson. I used to be at a networking assembly about six years in the past and I heard him talking. He had simply acquired again from doing his first undercover operation that he had gone on. And as I used to be listening to him inform the story, it simply touched me in a manner that I knew I needed to be part of this. I knew this was going to be one thing I used to be gonna be concerned with for the remainder of my life. And so, I simply made it a mission of mine to someway be capable of create sufficient worth to be part of this group that was going and doing this. And, you already know, six, eight months later, I discovered myself on my first op. And since then, I’ve been capable of be on 12 completely different operations. But I actually simply knew once I heard it, I needed to do one thing about it. And so simply made certain that I may do all the pieces I may to supply worth.

 

Katie: And I do know it is a factor that individuals right here could also be talked about within the media or see occasional mainstream information references to. But I really feel prefer it, hopefully, isn’t near dwelling for lots of people so typically it’s a simple factor to sort of ignore, however are you able to discuss how massive of an issue that is worldwide and why this was so necessary to you?

 

Jimmy: Yeah, I imply, I don’t know precise numbers or something like that, however I can inform you this, anytime we went to a brand new metropolis, if we went in search of it, more often than not inside 45 minutes to an hour, we may discover individuals prepared to promote us children for intercourse once we have been undercover. And in order that tells you, you already know, in lots of of those cities, I’ve been to earlier than on trip and by no means crossed my thoughts, by no means thought twice about it. But the second we went in search of it, it was that simple to seek out. And so, I do know that in most locations across the nation, it’s not out within the open, it’s not one thing you’d ever see or take into consideration, however it’s happening on a regular basis.

 

Katie: So really, it is a factor that might very a lot be taking place and sure is in lots of our personal communities?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, it was actually, I imply, inside a few hours, for certain, we may discover individuals prepared to promote as kids that have been already doing it.

 

Katie: Wow. And is that…? I do know within the analysis I’ve completed, plenty of that is taking place technologically now and the elevated entry to expertise is making this occur. And there are methods that that’s taking place sort of underground, even on-line, is that what you guys are seeing as properly?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. We didn’t actually do a lot with the web stuff, however I imply, when you concentrate on, you already know, with a view to, A, site visitors a child, or to be the particular person on the opposite finish of that, going to search for kids to have intercourse with, it’s important to have entry to kids. And so previously, plenty of instances, all that, you already know, you’d hear about was some member of the family or perhaps a instructor or one thing like that, anyone that was near these children. Well now, due to the web, we all know there’s simply much more accessibility for these individuals seeking to do these issues. And to allow them to each site visitors and discover kids simpler by the web. And so, clearly, it’s turn into a really prevalent place the place that occurs.

 

Katie: So while you say you’ve gone on 12 completely different operations, what does that appear to be? Are you guys capable of truly rescue a few of the children from these conditions?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So I’ve been on 12 ops that have been concerned with rescuing kids. So we go all the way down to completely different areas the place we all know one thing’s happening, or we’ve been tipped off that there is likely to be an issue. And we might go down undercover. And our job is to enter the worst locations in these cities and discover the worst individuals and attempt to discover these which can be trafficking kids. And so we’re utilizing, you already know, all of our talents to principally attempt to discover the children and the individuals prepared to promote us the children.

 

And so on all 12 of these ops, just a few of them, you already know, didn’t find yourself getting the children. Something occurred, anyone acquired tipped off, or no matter it may need been, however the majority of them went very profitable. And total, I feel I’ve been capable of be part of now rescuing over 150 kids and having over 45, 50 guys and girls arrested. And so, yeah, we might actually simply go undercover, we might go into these cities. We’d fly in and begin doing our factor that we do with a view to discover them. And like I stated, generally it might take us just a few days to sort of get all of it arrange, generally it’d be very fast, however that’s sort of what it appeared like.

 

Katie: And I’ll admit, it’s considerably unfathomable to me that that is taking place and particularly on such a big scale. Like, I really can’t even comprehend once I learn these stats. Are these like mother and father and caregivers which can be collaborating on this, are these kids being kidnapped, or what are you guys normally discovering?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So we see a bit little bit of all the pieces. So it doesn’t normally appear to be you’d assume. So we’ve seen kids behind cages and bars. That’s, in Haiti, that was, you already know, the fact of the scenario one time. That’s not normally what you see although. So sometimes, what’s happening is plenty of these kids are trafficked both by anyone they know, by a member of the family, by a good friend, by a instructor. I’ll offer you one instance. We have been in a metropolis in Latin America, and it was a seventh or eighth-grade faculty instructor.

 

She used her place to lure these women that she was instructing. For instance, so she would inform them, “Hey, you know, I’ve got an extra $20 if you’ll go to this party. We’re gonna have a party. It should be fun.” Lure them into the occasion. Next factor they know, they’re being raped. And the instructor tells them, “If you tell anybody, tell your parents, then I’m gonna tell them that you went and had sex with these men. And then we’ll tell everybody what you’ve done.” And then principally it’s a disgrace factor.

 

And then they, you already know… And we all know this as a result of a few of the instances once we have been capable of finding these traffickers, we might be capable of faucet their telephones. And the Mexican police or the Latin police, whoever we have been working with, would pay attention to the conversations. And these women could be begging to not should go, however they might go nonetheless. And so plenty of them have been even dwelling at dwelling and being trafficked out of their very own home. Quite a lot of them, you bought a neighbor or a member of the family or anyone like that’s doing it.

 

Quite a lot of instances, the ladies or the women, you already know, they weren’t even… generally they didn’t even know the depth of the how dangerous it was, what was taking place to them. They knew that, you already know, they have been being trafficked out, however they didn’t absolutely perceive. They have been too younger to essentially comprehend what was happening. So you actually see a bit little bit of all the pieces, however normally, it’s anyone in these sorts of conditions. Quite a lot of instances, runaways or women that, you already know, had a hassle in the home, they might go reside with a member of the family or a good friend, and subsequent factor you already know, they’re dwelling with the traffickers or no matter which may appear to be. And so, we noticed all of that.

 

One of the primary issues that we do, anytime we’re gonna go right into a metropolis, a brand new metropolis, and go undercover, we’ve to verify first that they’ve all of the aftercare arrange in order that if we do a rescue and we discover these younger women, that they’ve aftercare set as much as assist them or to care for them. And so we wouldn’t even ever go do an op with out that setup. And a part of the explanation for that’s if we rescue the women and there’s no aftercare, there’s no manner to assist them, it’s truly worse for them plenty of instances. And so, you already know, we work along with these organizations.

 

And so, one of many first questions that they all the time work out, or one of many first issues they work out is, “Okay. Was this person living at home? Were they missing? If they were missing, were they reported missing?” Because that’s normally an indication whether or not the mother and father have been concerned or not. And so, you already know, we actually did plenty of work on the again finish to make it possible for was all taken care of. That’s a very massive a part of it’s simply to make it possible for their scenario is secure at dwelling. And if not, they wouldn’t return to that scenario.

 

Katie: That was gonna be my follow-up query is what does aftercare appear to be? Because I can solely think about that there’s most likely rather a lot that wants to enter this from the psychological well being aspect, from the bodily well being aspect to the logistical aspect of constructing certain they’ve a secure place to be after. What all goes into that?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. Just such as you simply stated, all of that, you already know, plenty of therapists, plenty of caretakers, lots of people. And then additionally determining what the women wished with their lives. Trying to attach them to the precise individuals that might assist them in the event that they wished to go to highschool, in the event that they wished to have a sure profession. Someone wished to, you already know, bake or get into hair reducing or no matter that is likely to be. Give them one thing the place that they had an opportunity to be taught and develop and never have to return to a nasty scenario.

 

But that’s… Yeah, aftercare concerned all of the above. And by the point, you already know, I labored rather a lot with a gaggle referred to as… properly, I labored with plenty of completely different teams, however Child Liberation Foundation and Operation Underground Railroad. I do know, you already know, for these organizations, they spend much more cash. I heard as soon as, I can’t confirm this, however I heard one time they spend six instances extra money per little one on aftercare that they do on the precise rescues themselves.

 

Katie: Wow. Well, that appears tremendous, tremendous necessary. What sort of age vary do you sometimes see when these individuals are rescued? I’m a bit scared to ask, however I might assume it’s largely like youngsters and younger adults, or do you see sort of throughout the board?

 

Jimmy: Usually 12 to 14, 15 is sort of what most of them are. You know, I feel the youngest I noticed was 12. I feel the oldest that we… We rescued some that weren’t underage, however you already know, nonetheless being exploited or no matter. But the bulk have been that 12 to 17, 12 to 16 vary.

 

Katie: And is there a course of for coping with the people who find themselves doing the trafficking? Like, are there in these completely different nations and particularly within the U.S., like, is there truly a means of them being dropped at justice or what does that appear to be?

 

Jimmy: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we by no means labored within the U.S. The U.S. has, you already know, plenty of enforcement companies. I do know there’s some organizations that work along with these legislation enforcement companies. But you gotta bear in mind, plenty of these nations we go to, they don’t have the cash or the means to do it. And so that they have reached out to us to assist them. They desperately need our assist. You know, for instance, after I did a few ops in Mexico, they have been so grateful to us that they ended up awarding me and my group of buddies that have been along with me, you already know, diplomat standing and a few actually cool awards and issues like that as a result of they’re so grateful. Because, you already know, one of many unfavorable belongings you hear about that is like, “Oh, the Americans just wanna go G.I. Joe or whatever.” And it’s actually not true in any respect. They have been so grateful to have us there to have the ability to work with them.

 

And what the Americans are capable of do is a lot more practical as a result of we appear to be the individuals which can be taking place there for the trafficking within the first place. And so we’re capable of simply get much more data. I bear in mind one op we did, you already know, it took us about 24 hours. The head of the federal police in that nation stated, “You guys have gotten us more information in 24 hours than we gotten in 14 months.” We had all their names, their social medias, their telephone numbers, you already know, all the pieces we would have liked for these guys. And so for us, the chance to go down there and try this, it’s simply rather more efficient, rather more environment friendly for them. But yeah, it’s a course of of constructing certain you’re working along with every authority on each single op. You’re working very intently hand in hand.

 

Katie: And I really feel like from right here, there’s sort of a two-prong method I wanna go into. The first being, for all of the mother and father listening, most individuals listening are mother and father, what can we concentrate on, indicators to search for, hopefully not in our personal kids for anybody listening, however in perhaps different kids that we’re interacting with, our youngsters’ buddies, simply on the whole, that may be sort of warning indicators for issues like abuse and kidnapping and intercourse trafficking?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I feel it’s actually necessary to show your children in the event that they’re uncomfortable with one thing, to let you already know. I do know once I was a child, I had like a bizarre uncle and nothing ever occurred, however I simply felt uncomfortable with him. He all the time wished to kiss me on the lips like when he was saying hello and bye, and I used to be capable of get out of it. But, you already know, I bear in mind my mother and father being like, “Be nice or whatever.” And it’s like, no, don’t. Like, for those who really feel uncomfortable with one thing, that’s an indication that perhaps you must avoid that particular person. Or if in case you have, like, a neighbor that’s a bit bit creepy, there’s most likely one thing to that. So don’t…

 

I bear in mind simply as a child, you already know, mother and father, plenty of instances, they don’t need their children to come back off impolite, however I feel it’s necessary to let your children know for those who don’t wanna speak to anyone otherwise you don’t wanna be good to anyone that’s an grownup, that’s good. Like, let me know and also you don’t should. You don’t should be pleasant to everyone, even when it’s your grandparent or your uncle or whoever it is likely to be. I feel that’s one necessary factor for folks. And then simply search for issues. Like, it’s not okay for folks to be buddies with children. It’s not okay for folks to be overly pleasant with children. Or, sorry, strangers, you already know. To be… So if anyone’s attempting to love… Usually, in the event that they’re gonna do one thing, nonetheless to this present day, I feel more often than not, the traffickers know the children. And so take note of that.

 

If the instructor is contacting the scholar exterior of church or faculty, most likely not okay. If there’s issues that they need them to maintain from you as a guardian, not okay. And so I feel it’s necessary to only have open communication together with your children and simply allow them to know, “Hey, I’m by no means gonna get mad at you. But if there’s ever an grownup wanting to satisfy up or speak or no matter, I simply wanna know what’s happening and I’ll make certain, you already know, to be part of it. Just have a really open dialogue together with your children. Because normally it seems like an grownup that’s simply attempting to be good and so they’ll make you appear to be you’re the loopy one.

 

But you already know, I feel children, particularly if children are simply uncomfortable round anyone, take note of their power. If you’ve got a neighbor that the child’s all the time hiding from or doesn’t wanna speak to or sort of clamps up round, that is likely to be an indication that, you already know, they don’t wanna be round that neighbor or one thing is likely to be happening there. And so I feel that’s an important factor so far as with individuals you already know. As far as individuals you don’t know, I feel, once more, simply instructing your children to have the ability to say, you already know, to have the ability to say no, to yell in the event that they’re in hassle, to watch out the place they’re going, to only concentrate, you already know, all the primary issues that you’d already inform your child as a guardian.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I feel that boundary one, particularly round bodily contact is de facto, actually necessary. To simply echo what you stated of even at a younger age, you already know, not forcing our youngsters to hug a relative in the event that they don’t need to. And educate them from the second that they perceive that your physique is yours to make selections about, interval. And I help your selections about that. If you don’t wanna…you’ll not be pressured to hug or kiss any relative, together with me. Like, that is your physique, your autonomy, and I’m your largest supporter in that.

 

And that’s additionally actually nice recommendation about simply watching grownup relationships and ensuring we’re part of them with different adults exterior the household. Because definitely, like, in fact, there may be mentorship conditions or academics who’re nice with the children, however there’s no purpose mother and father can’t be concerned in these relationships as properly.

 

What concerning the social media aspect? Because that is an space that once I was at these ages, didn’t exist. So this was one thing I didn’t should navigate as a youngster. And now, as mother and father, we’re navigating with our youngsters fairly often from a youthful age. And I’ve learn not less than that fairly a little bit of the focusing on that occurs goes on by social media or by on-line channels.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So, that is a type of issues that folks won’t be very conscious of in any respect, however it is extremely simple to contact children or teenage children by social media apps for these individuals. So I’ll offer you an instance. We have been on trip undercover. Well, I ought to say, our group was undercover. There was, with us, one of many guys that got here down undercover, his spouse and cousin got here to be on trip within the metropolis. So earlier than the ops began, they have been hanging out. Well, one of many cousin was on her social media on Facebook, I consider, or Instagram.

 

And she had simply posted that she was on this specific seashore metropolis hanging out and acquired contacted by this man on there that stated, “Oh. Hey, we have this party going on. It’s at the club, this, this. You guys should come.” Well, we noticed it later and it was one of many traffickers that we have been working with undercover in that metropolis had contacted her to come back to this occasion. I imply, she was, I feel 19 or 20, so she wasn’t underage, however nonetheless, he didn’t know that. And who is aware of if that might’ve was a trafficking scenario. So plenty of instances, individuals will submit their footage and so they’ll put the landmark that they’re by.

 

Well, these traffickers can search by a landmark, they’ll search by metropolis. They can see, you already know, the place these individuals are after which they contact them in real-time and say, “Oh. Hey, we got this party,” or, “Hey, we got this event going on.” And so I simply assume it’s necessary that they turn into conscious. Because plenty of instances, particularly teenage children and teenage women, they is likely to be happening a trip and so they harmlessly are posting about the place they’re at in real-time and exhibiting that and it simply sort of opens that door. Especially for those who’re overseas, what I like to recommend to individuals to do is submit all the pieces three or 4 days later. So wait until you permit the place you’re at.

 

If you wanna do a video in your Instagram story, as an alternative of posting that story in real-time, you already know, wait three days, make the video, after which submit all the pieces just a few days later. I do know that’s not as enjoyable as doing it in real-time, however particularly in a foreign country, I simply assume that’s actually necessary to not let individuals know the place you’re at. Quite a lot of instances, these are small cities, they’re seashore cities, you already know, you’re in some Southeast Asia place or one thing or, you already know, Latin nation, or South America, or wherever it is likely to be. Because it’s a very actual factor. And additionally, it simply opens the door even for individuals…

 

You know, and fogeys as properly, by the best way. If you’re posting and also you’re manner overseas otherwise you’re very far-off from dwelling and you’ve got teenage children at dwelling, properly, most likely not a good suggestion to submit in real-time both as a result of now if anyone’s been watching you and your children, they know you guys are away, they might perhaps attempt to make their transfer in your child at the moment whilst you’re out. And so I feel it’s actually necessary to only concentrate on that. I do know we wanna present the world all the pieces we’re doing, however if in case you have, you already know, teenage children, particularly your youthful children, I simply assume it’s good time to place, you already know, put some area in between the place you might be in order that no one can…

 

I’ve an in depth household that I’m superb buddies with referred to as the Bucket List Family. And you may need heard of them earlier than. I’ve gone on a number of journeys with them, with Garrett and Jess and their household. And they all the time wait three or 4 or 5 days to submit from the place they really are so individuals don’t know the place they’re at. They can’t come and, you already know, who is aware of what they could attempt to do or no matter. And so, I discovered that from Garrett firsthand. But you already know, it’s a reasonably good thought to only submit just a few days later.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s such a easy tip, however such an necessary one. And it’s one I’ve inadvertently completed simply due to having sort of a web-based platform. I might find yourself assembly up with individuals if I posted the place I truly was, which was truly nice, as a result of I like assembly up with my readers, however it made me notice like, wow, it’s really easy for individuals to determine and put the items collectively and there’s this probability of individuals being in the identical place. But once we consider it by this lens, particularly for teenagers, that may be a easy tip. It makes an entire lot of sense. I do know children are so used to posting all the pieces and sharing their complete life on social media, however that’s such an necessary tip.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, I do the identical factor. When I am going, you already know, I am going to plenty of sporting occasions, and I submit that in real-time. I don’t have little children at dwelling both and stuff like that so it’s not as massive of a deal. But yeah, it’s simply a type of little issues. Also, simply on the whole, in social media, take note of who your children are speaking with. If they’re youngsters, in the event that they’re on the apps, I feel it’s simply necessary to have relationship with them and never get mad at them for those who ever see them speaking to adults as a result of they’re gonna disguise it from you in that case. And so I feel for those who can actually come from a spot of understanding and curiosity and love with them, and simply allow them to know like, “Hey, I just wanna make sure that you are protected.”

 

I simply inform them, “I just wanna make sure you’re protected. You never know. I’ll never get mad at you, but if you know adults ever reach out to you, I’d love to know.” I used to be, you already know, speaking to anyone fairly not too long ago and he or she had talked about, she’s older now, however she had talked about when she was 16 and 17, she had 37 to 39-year-old guys, you already know, that she was happening dates with as a 16-year-old, 15-year-old. And you’re like, “Geez, where were the parents on this?” You know? But it’s actually necessary to know who your children are speaking to. And so I simply assume the extra you possibly can create that comfortability with them the place they’re gonna be trustworthy and open with you and also you don’t get mad at them for it, I feel you’re gonna be capable of present an area the place they’ll truly share it with you.

 

Katie: Yeah. And the significance of simply having these open conversations. And like I stated, social media didn’t exist once I was a youngster, however I had guys in particular person who’re a lot, a lot, a lot older attempt to make contact and speak to me. And like that felt bizarre on the time. And, like, I didn’t have context essentially for, like, what do I do about this? And so I feel having these conversations together with your children actually early and ensuring, such as you stated, that they hear time and again, like, “I will never be mad at you. I will always be your advocate. And these are important. Even if you just have a suspicion or an inkling or something just feels weird, we can talk about it, anything, and you will not ever get in trouble for that.” Just to create kinda that security web.

 

And I feel the opposite a part of this, so like I feel the mother and father being conscious with our personal children is tremendous, tremendous necessary. But such as you’ve defined, it is a worldwide drawback, sadly. It appears to be an growing drawback nonetheless in at present’s society. And I do know, like, as an example, me as a mother of six children, I can’t go do sting operations very simply in different nations, however what are some ways in which we are able to become involved and assist help the training, help the battle in opposition to this for different individuals’s children and somewhere else?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. You know, I feel one of the crucial necessary issues you are able to do is to begin with your individual self, your loved ones, the individuals that you just affect. Paul all the time has this saying. He says, “Jimmy, I’m gonna teach you a lesson about the circle of influence.” He says, “If it’s within the circle that you can influence it, then you have the right to worry about it. If it’s not within that circle, you have two choices. You either don’t worry about it or you make a bigger circle so that you can influence more and you can eventually do something about it.”

 

So so far as, like, yeah, you’re not gonna be capable of go undercover and do these sort of issues. What you are able to do is to assist help the organizations like Child Liberation Foundation that, you already know, goes and does this type of stuff. You can help them by sharing their tales, by sharing their social medias, by sharing their posts, liking it, commenting it, simply letting the phrase get on the market. Also what you’re doing proper now, proper? Doing this podcast. And one of many issues that, you already know, I’m cautious to share once I inform individuals the best way to share that is you don’t wanna share it in a manner that’s unfaithful or loopy.

 

You’ll discover I by no means give stats or numbers I don’t know. I don’t wanna throw issues on the market. Because what I feel what occurred with this motion a bit bit over the past yr or two is the individuals which can be actually evil, I feel that they tried to lump on this problem with QAnon and a few of these different loopy theories which can be on the market. And so what it did is it sort of minimized all of it, proper? It was like, “Oh, it’s just a bunch of crazy people.” But it’s like, “No. I’ve seen firsthand. I know the problem that’s out there. I don’t know the extent to exactly how huge it is, but it’s big and it’s a problem.”

 

But as a result of so many individuals began sounding loopy with the best way they shared it and sharing numbers and stats that perhaps weren’t true, they have been capable of lump it in and simply be like, “Yeah, that’s all just part of the crazy right wing conspiracy.” And so I’m very cautious to not share issues that aren’t true. I wanna make it possible for individuals know it is a actual factor. This is occurring. It doesn’t imply that Tom Hanks is consuming kids. It implies that, you already know, that there’s a pedophile. And we all know Ghislaine Maxwell trial happening proper now. This is an actual factor. It’s been taking place.

 

But cautious the way you share it. I share it in a manner the place it’s like, “Look, this is probably happening right in your backyard.” It doesn’t matter if the elites of the world are doing it within the sense that that’s not essentially what you might want to be sharing. What you might want to be sharing is, like, look, straight up on the bottom, how can I be affecting my neighborhood, my metropolis, and sort of fear concerning the issues you possibly can truly affect? That’s one of the best factor I’m attempting to get out of that is you’re not gonna be capable of do something if the world leaders are all doing this.

 

Like, there’s not a lot you are able to do or say about that. What you could possibly do is, in your group, assist educate individuals, assist individuals see the issue that’s on the market. And then simply assist them be, you already know, once more, be good neighbors. The strongest neighborhoods the place this isn’t taking place is the place there’s robust neighborhoods, they’re serving to one another, they care about one another. They’re prepared to speak to one another. And so, I feel that to me is the easiest way to do it. And then, clearly, once more, simply spreading the notice and issues like that.

 

Katie: And I’ll make certain, I do know that there are additionally many on-line sources, together with the organizations you talked about. I’ll make certain these are linked to the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. so that you guys can learn and discover a few of these precise details to share and know what to look at for and in your individual group. I additionally absolutely agree with you that having robust communities in our native space is part of the answer. And additionally, I’ve talked about it in so many podcast episodes, it’s necessary for well being, it’s necessary for psychological well being, it’s necessary for longevity.

 

Like, there’s a purpose blue zones have robust communities and that’s as a result of they’re important to us as human animals. But that is additionally simply one other instance of why that’s so necessary. And particularly for our youngsters. I do know that is an space that’s been robust for lots of people the final couple of years for the reason that group’s been tougher with plenty of the restrictions which have gone on, however one which’s very, essential to nurture.

 

And so I’ll make certain all these hyperlinks are included within the present notes. I’d like to additionally speak a bit bit extra about you personally so individuals can perceive the work that you just’re doing and in addition why that is, you already know, so necessary to you and the way you’re employed to enhance the world in an entire lot of various areas. And I’ve some notes in my present notes, one being, for those who have been gonna give a TED Talk, it might be about sort of the thought of your e book, which is “You End Up Where You’re Heading.” So I might love to listen to you discuss that a bit bit as a result of I feel that is additionally actually related to folks.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, yeah. So a number of years in the past, once more, I sort of had this second the place I used to be attempting to determine what my life was gonna be about, what the aim of my life was going to be. And I felt very strongly finally about my goal, and it’s to assist individuals reside a unprecedented life, to unfold love and goodness by having a playful spirit, and exhibiting how to do this. And so one of many issues that… I’ll inform you a fast story too. The hat that I’m carrying, it’s a brand for my firm. It’s referred to as “We Are The They.”

 

And how that happened is I got here again from considered one of these ops. It was truly one of the crucial harmful ones we’d ever been on. And, you already know, I used to be telling my girlfriend on the time, she picked me up on the airport, and we have been speaking all concerning the op and the way scary it was and the way cool it was as a result of we acquired the rescue and we took these horrible guys down. And I’m telling her all about it and he or she pulls over and he or she goes, “Hey, I gotta be honest. I don’t want you to go do this anymore.” And I used to be like, “What do you mean? I just rescued these kids. Like, this is my life’s purpose here. You know, it’s gonna be a big part of it.”

 

And she says, “Well, I know, but it’s just such a bad environment.”It’s simply actually scary. It’s harmful.” And she stated, “Why can’t they just go do it?” And with out pondering, I stated, “Well, there is no they, we are the they.” And as quickly as I stated it, I used to be like ‘Oh, shit, that’s…” And, you already know, and I knew… And in order that grew to become the mannequin for my life is “We are the they.” And in order that, you already know, once more, along with the e book, I simply attempt to assist individuals. I coach males the best way to turn into one of the best model of themselves. It’s a gaggle referred to as “We Are The They.”

 

And principally, we simply, by being males of integrity, by being trustworthy about what, you already know, I seen over time, the individuals that might attain out to me probably the most, they wished group and so they wished a secure place the place they might open up and have individuals love them by development and attempting to turn into one of the best model of themselves. And in order that’s the place I began that. The e book basically follows what is named the hero’s journey, which is the trail that all of us go on.

 

And I feel it’s necessary in life to do not forget that attending to the place we’re attempting to get, it’s not a easy path. It’s not a simple path. But that journey, that hero’s journey that we go on. And principally, for those who’ve by no means considered what you need your life to appear to be, you’re simply gonna find yourself the place you’re heading. You’re simply gonna go wherever the wind sort of takes you. Whatever particular person desires you to be part of their story, they’ll add you in as a bit. And normally, you’ll spend your life constructing their dream or their factor.

 

And so if you already know what you need, for those who get crystal clear on the place you’re attempting to go and what you’re attempting to do… You know, you requested me on the very starting of this, how did you get into this? And finally, it’s as simple as I simply determined I used to be going to do that. I made that call. I had a why large after which I discovered the best way to make that occur. And in order that’s that manner with all the pieces in life. I simply sort of, you already know, by the e book and thru my teaching program, encourage individuals to determine precisely what they need in life after which go about determining why that’s what they need after which determining the best way to go about doing it.

 

Katie: Yeah. I feel that’s so necessary. I haven’t had an opportunity to learn it but, however I’m positively going to take a look at your e book. I even have a be aware in my present notes that you’ve got an honorary doctorate diploma from 13 universities in Mexico. And I really feel like I would like to listen to extra about this.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, that was a part of… So we did plenty of these ops early on. We have been in Mexico. We have been capable of rescue plenty of children down there and so they have been so grateful to us for doing this. Like I stated, they didn’t have the power, the means to do it. And so, a number of years in the past, they flew up, most likely 30, 35 officers from Mexico flew up, and we did a particular ceremony on the Capitol constructing right here in Utah with the Attorney General of Utah. They gave us honorary doctorate levels.

 

So I’ve this group of buddies from highschool. There’s eight of us which can be all finest buddies. And two of them grew to become medical doctors. One’s an orthopedist surgeon and one’s a plastic surgeon. And I made the joke to them. I stated, “Gosh, guys, who would’ve ever thought that three of us would become doctors, you know?” And they didn’t assume that was very humorous since they put 15 years of faculty into it. But it was simply sort of an honor that we acquired to have, simply one thing sort of cool and one thing sort of fascinating I put in my bio.

 

Katie: I even have a be aware that you just’ve been to 84 nations. And I might love to listen to only a few of the highest ones that you’d advocate probably the most.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So in actual fact, what occurred, I’ll inform the story of why I began doing that. So in 2014, I had a buddy, his title was Eric Hill. And he had a objective, he was gonna go to each single nation within the shortest period of time ever. And he’d gotten to I feel over 50 of them in lower than 6 or 7 months. And he was doing this international odyssey. And he ended up passing away. He was paragliding and had an accident and died. And I bear in mind there was this, sort of, this hashtag that went round, #livelikeEric.

 

And what that meant to me was this man was really dwelling his life. He was doing all these superb issues and going and simply dwelling his life. And I remembered I hadn’t been overseas in years. I’d been simply working my butt off on a regular basis. And I stated to myself, I stated, you already know, “If I died tomorrow, like, the tragedy that that would be.” And so I simply made it a objective. I simply stated, “I’m just gonna go see the world.” And so I began touring, went on a number of journeys with buddies, with teams of buddies, with, you already know, anyone I used to be courting, after which went on a number of on my own too.

 

And what I found is simply this world, when you determine, like, how stunning the world is, while you really can admire the world for all the pieces it’s, you’ve got a a lot stronger want to put it aside, a a lot stronger want to do good on the planet, I feel. And so for me, I actually encourage everyone, drop plenty of prejudices and also you’re capable of actually see individuals and perceive that we’re all a part of the identical human household. But to choose just a few, I might say, you already know, Ireland and Scotland and Iceland are superb. Everyone of their lives ought to do an African safari.

 

You know, I bear in mind sleeping out in the course of the bush in Zimbabwe and waking up there’s lions 200-feet away and there’s monkeys swinging within the timber above us. And a honey badger actually crawled proper as much as my leg. And I bear in mind sitting on this berm overlooking this type of this hill and into sort of like a marsh and there was hippos and within the distance, there’s giraffes and rhinos. And it’s simply probably the most surreal factor that… You begin to go go to all these individuals. What actually is cool goes and visiting the native individuals in all these locations, you already know? And you begin to simply actually have a love for humanity. It actually drops any prejudices you’ve got.

 

I do know I went a few years in the past to Egypt with a good friend of mine. And he grew up there and his household nonetheless lives there. And we spent just a few days with them after we went and noticed the pyramids and all that. And this household was, you already know, a Muslim household. And I’m in Utah. We don’t have very many minorities, simply being trustworthy with you. You sort of concern what you don’t know and so that you’re all the time just a bit bit afraid of these individuals. And so going over there although and feeling their like to me. And they introduced me into their properties and fed us and probably the most superb meals and simply the best way they handled us and honored us was actually particular.

 

And I noticed, you already know, all these belongings you’re afraid of in life, when you get close to them, you not are. And, you already know, Brené Brown talks about this on a regular basis, leaning into individuals. Same factor with animals. In reality, I’m an enormous shark man. I like sharks. I like to swim with sharks. I’ve swum with 15 completely different species of sharks, together with bull sharks, tiger sharks, all this with no cage. And when you’ve got a tiger shark coming at you, proper? I used to be in the course of the Atlantic Ocean. It’s 15-feet lengthy. It’s this massive… It seems like a miniature bus coming at you, however you’re feeling its power towards you. And as an alternative of being afraid, you’re simply in amazement and marvel.

 

This factor lives right here on this physique of water and it’s developing and it’s simply curious, and it’s you and also you’re it. There’s no cage. It’s simply this trade of power and love and it actually adjustments your view in the direction of most issues. And so, a part of what I educate, you already know, the lads in my teaching program is we go do scary issues as a result of we’ve these irrational fears from what we’re advised to consider from society. You know, the information media wants you to be in concern in order that they’ll, you already know, promote. I imply, you already know, concern sells and all these various things. And so what we attempt to do is by touring and by going and experiencing all this, it’s such a wonderful world on the market. And I feel that’s the fantastic thing about touring.

 

Katie: I agree with you. I’ve thought with my very own children is, like, I do know I can look again and notice a few of the more durable instances of my life helped me turn into the particular person I’m at present. And but I don’t wanna deliberately create a troublesome life for my children. And journey’s sort of the proper answer as a result of there’s plenty of inherent problem that comes together with journey. And such as you stated, you acquire an entire new perspective on humanity and on the world and the way we’re all a lot extra related and comparable than we frequently develop up once we develop up in a homogenous space. And so journey’s positively a core worth for us as properly. Although you’ve got traveled to many, many extra locations, which is superior and provoking.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. You do plenty of problem-solving while you journey, to your level, you already know, is attempting to determine issues out on the go and you’ll’t converse the language and also you gotta work out stuff and also you simply do. You simply find yourself figuring it out. But I like that concept as a guardian to, you already know, assist your children develop.

 

Katie: And then lastly, on my notes, I’ve a be aware that you just’re the President of the Chris Farley Fan Club. And I really feel like that wants some clarification as properly.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So me and my buddies, once we have been in highschool, I used to be a Sophomore in highschool when Chris Farley handed away, and we have been simply such massive followers. I imply, I wished to be Chris Farley. Most guys, you already know, most youngsters most likely wished to be an athlete or wished to be one of many film stars that was getting all the women. I wished to be Chris Farley. I simply thought he was one of the best ever. And so me and my buddies, the day he handed away, which is December 18th, truly it was simply yesterday, was two days in the past, sorry, it was Chris Farley Day. December 18th was the day he handed away. So we might get collectively yearly and watch all his motion pictures.

 

And then one yr… You know, I used to be all the time simply Googling Chris Farley wanting into issues. And I bear in mind one yr, again in perhaps 2002 or 2003, I Googled Chris Farley and there was a basis arrange by his brother, Tom, the place they have been elevating cash to assist, you already know, maintain children off medication. So I reached out to him and we began a relationship. And then a couple of yr later, two years later, Chris Farley acquired a star on Hollywood and we acquired invited out to come back to it. And Tom stated, “Hey, I mean, you guys are basically the fan club. Why don’t you come on out and come to the star ceremony?”

 

And so we got here out, went to the occasion. It was very personal. I feel there was perhaps 70 individuals. I imply, we’re speaking it’s Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, David Spade, Tom Arnold, Gary Busey, the fellows from Paramount, his household, and us. And it was very intimate. And acquired to the star ceremony, went to the after-party, and frolicked with everyone. It was sort of a celebration, but additionally sort of somber. You know, I bear in mind Adam Sandler simply being tremendous unhappy and… But then and we, yeah, grew to become the unofficial official Chris Farley Fan Club that day. And so I grew to become the president of that.

 

We did an occasion a few years later right here in Utah the place, you already know, his brothers got here in and we did this large occasion to lift cash for the muse. And we had, like, pizza and it was the meat lovers pizza within the trunk pizza part. We had the rooster wings. There was the Tommy likey, Tommy Want Wingy rooster wings. And had standup comedians come and performed all his motion pictures. And so I keep in contact fairly recurrently along with his brothers to this present day, had them on my podcast final yr. We discuss it on a regular basis. And only a particular little connection I feel to this man that I by no means met however have been capable of create plenty of, you already know, the enjoyment that I had as a child by life was by him. So I’ve sort of honored him that manner.

 

Katie: What a cool story.

 

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And as we get towards the tip of time, one other query I like to ask is that if there’s a e book or numerous books which have had a profound impression in your life, and in that case, what they’re and why?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, I’m an enormous reader. And so I used to learn 50 to 100 books a yr for a very long time. That was most likely earlier than I began my podcast. That’s what I might do. Now I, you already know, examine plenty of podcasts and podcast friends so I can get individuals on my podcast. But I nonetheless learn fairly a bit. And I might say, if I may choose one e book that each man ought to learn is named “The Way of the Superior Man” by David Deida. David has personally been a coach of mine as properly, however he’s, I imply, that e book, simply nails, the best way to present up as a person.

 

But that’s one e book that had an enormous profound change on my life. So many, however “Think and Grow Rich,” you already know, “The Four Agreements,” these are all books that I attempt to learn not less than as soon as yearly or two. And then something by Brene Brown is particular and teaches you the best way to love humanity a bit bit higher. And so, yeah, these are a few of my favorites.

 

Katie: And I do know that past a e book, you’ve completed a lot on the planet we didn’t even get to speak about at present, together with plenty of work in actual property and a lot extra. So the place can individuals discover you on-line and continue learning about all of the belongings you’re doing?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. The finest place to seek out me, my Instagram is @mrjimmyrex, and I submit all the pieces that I’m doing on there. Anytime I’m talking, anytime I’ve occasions, my new podcasts that come out, any, you already know, events that I’m internet hosting or throwing any charity occasions for this charity or others that I’m doing, I share on there. And so simply comply with me on @mrjimmyrex. That’s most likely the easiest way. And be at liberty to succeed in out anytime if I may help in any manner. I’m superb at getting again to individuals in my DMs. I do all that myself and so completely happy to assist anyone if, you already know, if there’s a necessity that I can help you.

 

Katie: Thank you a lot. And like I stated, I’ll make certain we hyperlink to all the various things we’ve talked about, particularly the organizations that individuals can help if they’ll’t actively go do work on this space, in addition to to your whole locations that you just reside on-line. But Jimmy, thanks a lot for taking the time to be right here at present. You have such a captivating story and all the adventures of your life. And I’m so grateful for you educating about this and for the work that you just’ve completed instantly to assist with this drawback worldwide.

 

Jimmy: Well, thanks. It’s one thing that, you already know, when you get into it and also you begin doing it, you notice how particular it’s, how particular to have the ability to assist these individuals which can be on this scenario. I imply, we even have gone in and seen the women being, you already know, in these positions and we’ve been capable of have the rescues. And it’ll change you and it adjustments you without end. And so it’s particular to me. It’s particular to have the ability to share about it and assist different individuals turn into conscious. And so if I can ever do anything to assist unfold consciousness, I’m all the time accessible. And thanks once more for having me on.

 

Katie: Thank you a lot for being right here. And thanks as all the time to all of you who’re listening for sharing your time, your power, and your consideration with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you just did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama” podcast.

 

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